Do you do the entire assessment and raps or do people from other disciplines
share it?
Is there any way you can anticipate or project the length of stay a few days
in advance?

Maybe you would want to set a common practice with your team, that you
initiate it as a 1/1 and if it is anticipated everyone completes their raps
on or about day 12 or 13 so you are not doing it last minute. In the event
that you know they are leaving earlier just change the reason code to 0/1
and don't complete the raps. Basing the admission raps on the 5 day is much
easier than waiting until the last minute and trying to complete after the
14 day ARD.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gola, Tammy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 12:32 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: OBRA Admission Assessment Question Again

So what do you do when they don't leave on day 14, doesn't that admission
assessment need to be completed and signed by day 14? 
So if you do a 5 day on day 5 and code it 0/1, when do you set your 14 day
assessment and complete it, in order to stay compliant with OBRA?

Tammy Gola BSN, RN, CRNAC
Wilkes-Barre General Hospital
Transitional Care Unit
575 North River Street
Wilkes-Barre, PA. 187641-0001
570-552-5417
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-----Original Message-----
From: Doyle, Renee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 1:17 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: OBRA Admission Assessment Question Again


I also work in a hospital-based SNF, and do not do the OBRA Admission
Assessment if they leave on day 14.  I code my first assessment 0/1 and do a
d/c tracking 8.  Here are some other answers given to this question
recently:

The top of page 1-15 states "An RAI  must be completed for any resident
resident residing in the facility longer than 14 days, including:"
So it would not be "longer" than 14 days if the resident left before the end
of the 14th day.

If they left before 11.59 PM on day 14 , an admission
assessment is not required.  You need to keep any assessment that you
started, but did not complete, on the resident's medical record and make a
notation about why the assessment was not completed.

If any experts out there (Rena? Jan?) disagree, please respond.

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