I prepare a schedule q week with all the mds/raps/careplans due that week. I have 
activities, social service, dietary, and restorative RN do their parts. We are a two 
person MDS office, myself and an LPN. The schedule has the A3a date, the date I want 
it completed,(usually a day before the R2b). I usually do not open the Mds in the 
computer until after the A3a. This way they have to assess up until 12 midnight. If 
someone is going to be out of the building I will open the MDS early for them. We are 
all computerized so I can just see that their info is in by the date I pick. I have 
been in this facility for over 4 years and the different departments did it 
differently when I came. This is much more streamlined, and I can e-mail people daily 
if their work is not completed. Also my administrator is supportive of the mds 
department, and will back me if i have to get tough. We have had very few problems 
over the last 3 yrs d/t q one knowing the expectations, and no turnover in other 
departments. 
A.Schoeny, MDS Coordinator
Sem Haven Health Care

-----Original Message-----
From: Doyle, Renee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 6:10 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: ASSESSMENTS


Our policy is dietary, activities, social services (as needed) should assess
the resident within 72 hrs.  It is not always possible, i.e. unable to reach
family and resident unable to answer.  Obviously, nursing assesses on
admission.  Dietary and Activities do sections of the MDS after the
reference date to include all info through midnight.  Our social worker does
not do the MDS.  We usually schedule the 5 day to be done on day 6-8 (have
til 14 days after ARD), using day 5 as the ARD.  Generally, the 14
day/Admission uses day 11 as ARD, with completion of MDS & RAPs scheduled
for day 12-14.  Admitting nurse does Braden scale & Falls Risk, and it is
done every shift thereafter (hospital-based SNF).  All of MDS & RAPs done by
me (RN) and my assistant (LPN), with the exception of Dietary - Section K &
Nutrition RAP (also Dehydration & Feeding Tube if she remembers to do it -
otherwise ME), and Activity - Sections F & N and Activity & Psychosocial
RAPs.  The MDS is "not a priority" to these other departments, and
frequently is "forgotten" or not done because they are "too busy."  So, we
end up doing the whole thing.  Not exactly interdisciplinary, is it?

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 4:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ASSESSMENTS


Do you get your dietary, activities,nursing, social service to complete
their assessments within the observation period, by the A3a date? Or in your
facility are they permitted to do their assessments and notes after the A3a
date?
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