Daniel Brown: It is wonderful that you were diagnosed at 11 a.m. and in the hospital by 12:30 and began treatment shortly thereafter. Did you pay for this out of pocket or did you have health insurance to pick up a good part of the tab? VReiter
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 5:24 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Today's Topic Summary > > Group: http://groups.google.com/group/cmlhope/topics > > - Kareem Abdul Jabbar...100% cancer > free?<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#12dfa8023aece7b6_group_thread_0>[2 > Updates] > - Digest for [email protected] - 4 Messages in 2 > Topics<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#12dfa8023aece7b6_group_thread_1>[2 > Updates] > > Topic: Kareem Abdul Jabbar...100% cancer > free?<http://groups.google.com/group/cmlhope/t/458037696bb09482> > > sweetbluemusic2002 <[email protected]> Feb 05 02:37PM -0800 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#12dfa8023aece7b6_digest_top> > > Here's one of the articles on it. > > > > http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2011/02/kareem-abdul-jabbar-tweets-that-hes-100-cancer-free.html > > I'm a little concerned after reading this. I explain to my family and > friends all the time that while being on the daily medication is > keeping the CML at bay, it's not a cure. I think his announcement is a > dangerous one if anyone with CML reads it and thinks they can simply > go off their meds because their numbers are good. > > From my understanding you're right a BMT is the only known cure... and > while some have gone off their meds and their numbers have stayed > low... that is not the typical result. I wish someone would write more > information about it! Did he do a trial? > > > > > [email protected] Feb 06 01:25AM > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#12dfa8023aece7b6_digest_top> > > Anyone that thinks they are "100% Cancer Free" and say the following > are saying two different things: > He told The Times' Broderick Turner at the time that the long-term > prognosis regarding his health was good and that he could manage his > condition by taking oral medication on a daily basis, consulting his > specialist every other month and frequently getting his blood analyzed. > > This is what all us CLMers do and we are not "Cancer Free" we are in > remission until we stop taking the meds. It's amazing how quickly the > numbers go up when you stop the medication. > Lenda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "sweetbluemusic2002" <[email protected]> > To: "CMLHope" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 5, 2011 4:37:18 PM > Subject: [CMLHope] Re: Kareem Abdul Jabbar...100% cancer free? > > Here's one of the articles on it. > > > > http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2011/02/kareem-abdul-jabbar-tweets-that-hes-100-cancer-free.html > > I'm a little concerned after reading this. I explain to my family and > friends all the time that while being on the daily medication is > keeping the CML at bay, it's not a cure. I think his announcement is a > dangerous one if anyone with CML reads it and thinks they can simply > go off their meds because their numbers are good. > > From my understanding you're right a BMT is the only known cure... and > while some have gone off their meds and their numbers have stayed > low... that is not the typical result. I wish someone would write more > information about it! Did he do a trial? > > -- > [CMLHope] > A support group of http://cmlhope.com > ------------------------------------------------- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "CMLHope" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/CMLHope > > > > Topic: Digest for [email protected] - 4 Messages in 2 > Topics<http://groups.google.com/group/cmlhope/t/f813af0798920c2> > > Minsu KYEONG <[email protected]> Feb 04 08:21PM -0800 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#12dfa8023aece7b6_digest_top> > > Daniel, > > Will you take some time looking at the health care reform act? > > I know why you have such abhorrance against government doing anything. > But think about whether private-is-all-efficient rule is another > propaganda. > > From the point of view of a foreigner who once lived in the U.S., the > country has one of the worst health insurance systems and I feel > relieved that the health care reform act made it at least a little > better. And I hope you will realize it soon and add a helping hand in > making it better. > > > > > > Daniel Brown <[email protected]> Feb 05 05:04PM -0600 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#12dfa8023aece7b6_digest_top> > > Don't hold your breath. > > I have never wanted to be dependent on any government for my needs. > Governments through the history of man, have always turned tyrannical (name > 1 that didn't), and our founders knew that, and tried to create a system > that left the individual responsible to determine their own fate and > "pursuit of happiness", not the government. Doesn't it bother anyone that a > union that donated 70 million dollars to the present presidents campaign, > gets special dispensations from this administration, and that this > government is going to FORCE you to buy something you may not want or need? > By the way is that a tax? > > I also know that each one of us is surviving because of the best > healthcare system in the world, bar none. Canada's socialist system has > waiting lists for tests and procedures of up to six months. If they need an > CT, well, that will be a 6 month wait. If the CT finds a brain tumor that > will be another 6 month wait. It is so bad right now that even the Canadian > Supreme court has ruled that being placed on a waiting list isn't access to > healthcare. If you doubt me copy and paste link > http://neamh.cns.uni.edu/MedInfo/canadian_healthcare.html. Let me ask > you a question, how long did you have to wait for healthcare when you were > diagnosed with CML? I for one was diagnosed at 11:00 am and was admitted to > the first local hospital by 12:00 noon and to the second hospital 250 miles > away by 11:00 PM that same day, and treatments started by midnight, lets > see > that happen in England or Canada or anywhere else. It is one of the few > things that this country maintains it superiority over every other country > in the world, yet we want to fix it? > > Does it not bother you that the healthcare bill is probably > unconstitutional? Our constitution was meant to limit what government can > do > to us and/or for us. Don't bother saying that we are already forced to by > auto insurance so whats the difference? The difference is that mandatory > car > insurance is required by the states not the federal government. Look, our > constitution was created to protect us from government. Now your going to > trash it? When I was in the military in1967, I swore to protect and defend > the constitution of the United States of America, and I don't believe there > was a statute of limitations on that oath. The same thing goes for our > elected officials when they took office. > > We are presently bankrupt as a country, yet we are creating the biggest > entitlement program we have ever tried. Right now, the gross national > product ( the total of everything produced in this country in goods and > services) is $14,500,000,000,000. Do you know how much our country is in > debt right now $14,100,000,000,000. Take a look for yourself. > > http://www.usdebtclock.org/ > > Just to give you some idea of the size and scope of this program, try > this on for size. The largest salaried organization in the world is the > Chinese Army. No real surprise there is it? The second largest is the > Indian > railroad. Who would have thought that India's railroad was that big? Are > you > ready for the third largest employer in the world? The British healthcare > system!!! Does that give you any concept of what this healthcare bill takes > over and just how big it will be and much it will cost? > > Right now, the federal government subsidizes, (depending on the state) > up to 2/3 of the state Medicaid cost for the individual states. For > example, > if state X contributes 1.5 Billion dollars to the State Medicaid program, > the Federal government will contribute an additional 3.0 Billion. You may > say so what? Well Medicaid will be doubled in size under the federal > healthcare bill and within 5 years, the states will be left to fund the > full > thing without any federal matching funds (you may remember Nebraska was > almost exempted). So just how much will your state have to raise your taxes > to pay for that new state program. The pity to this little jewel, is that > this wasn't added into the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) cost > forecasts, > because the feds aren't going to have to tax you for it, the state > governments will, and almost all of them are in a serious debt crisis > already. > > The healthcare bill said it was going to reduce Medicare payments by > 500 million dollars. Now just how do you think they are going to do that. > In > short they aren't and if you do believe that, I have a bridge in San > Francisco I'll sell you real cheap. Even if they did cut expenditures in > Medicare, it will be by reducing benefits. However, that won't happen, > because everyone will riot over that. > > Look, why can't we build this system step by step over time to make > sure we're not going to go into further bankruptcy. There is also another > thing called the rule of unintended consequences. What unintended > consequences will this massive bill create? No one knows since by > definition > it's unintended consequences. > On Feb 4, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Minsu KYEONG wrote: > > > > > -- > [CMLHope] > A support group of http://cmlhope.com > ------------------------------------------------- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "CMLHope" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/CMLHope -- [CMLHope] A support group of http://cmlhope.com ------------------------------------------------- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CMLHope" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/CMLHope
