Learned long ago that sail boat racing involves 50% boat, 50% crew, and
50% luck......we had a good race that day!
Most of the K25's built are class racing on the Great Lakes. When Mark
Bruckmann, Bryan Simms, Hugh Beaton were racing this K25, they were the
boat to beat. They shared a lot of information with me when they agreed
to sell their toy....this info, from a bunch of guys that knew this
boat, probably saved us 3 years of figure it out yourself on the
water/race course.
Interesting that we finished campaigning it and put it up for sale,
these same guys bought it back and trailer'ed it back to Toronto to
campaign it.
Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.
On 2014/03/10 5:32 PM, Chuck S wrote:
Great story.
Some boats can be exceptional. Some crews can make a good boat even
faster. You guys sound like you knew what you were doing. Sometimes
the planets allign and a good boat w good sails and a crew who trim
them well, make a huge difference.
Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
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*From: *"Robert Abbott" <[email protected]>
*To: *[email protected]
*Sent: *Monday, March 10, 2014 12:41:20 PM
*Subject: *Stus-List Kirby 25 verses C&C 37R
Chuck:
This particular K25 was a fast boat.....as I mentioned in an earlier
post, it was stripped out and made race ready at the Bruckmann factory
in Mississauga.....even after all of the work Mark Bruckmann did to
the K25, it was class legal. For example, he had the bottom 'long
sanded' and the foils were made 'perfect'. The sails were made by
Hugh Beaton of the North Sails loft in Toronto.....if anyone could
make sails for a K25, it is Hugh Beaton.
When I was in the process of buying the K25 from Mark Bruckmann, I
asked him to install a 'marine head' in the vee berth before he
shipped the boat to me.....he had the ways and means to do it a lot
better that me. I though at that moment he would not sell the boat
to me because he said it would slow it down.
Well, the J24 fleet around here called us 'the annoying red
Kirby'....we were beating them boat for boat most days. One day in
early August, we hauled the K25 on the club's crane to clean the
bottom and a few of the J24 racers took the opportunity to come over
to inspect her.....they asked what modifications had been done to the
boat to make it so fast.....I told them I had had a 'marine 'head'
install in the vee berth complete with thru hulls. Needless to say,
they went away totally perplexed.
The downwind run against the 37R, Dwight leaves the cockpit and has a
dump in the head.....the first to use it for that purpose.....too funny!
On another race, we were dueling boat for boat with a J24 to the
finish line....long story but he came up and bumped us and cried
foul.....I accepted the foul and did a 360 or 720, can't remember
exactly, and we still beat the J24 across the line. There was no way
the J24's could deal with this K25 downwind. Dwight might remember
that race and finish....I am pretty sure he was on board.
Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.
On 2014/03/08 7:42 PM, dwight wrote:
Chuck
I was on Bob and Glen's K25 as rail meat I guess because at that
time in my life I could add a lot to rail meat and we were not
planing, just holding our own downwind with a C&C 37R...good wind
but not planing for us as I recall...maybe Bob will remember
better, cause I was in the head for some of it, think I may have
been the first to use that head and that left he a Glen in
control...but it was downwind so they did not really need me and
maybe my weight forward was advantageous, who knows...think I
might have been the first to use the new head that Bob installed
on that slippery little K25, *40 Yard^3 Bin* that was her name and
she was swift that's for sure and we had a lot of fun with that
boat...I would recommend a K25 to anyone with racing aspirations
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*From:*CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf
Of *Chuck S
*Sent:* March 8, 2014 11:50 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Stus-List Kirby 25 verses C&C 37R
Hi Dwight,
I imagine the Kirby 25 was planing and surfing while you guys were
not able to?
I hate when they put planing boats in with our division, but
that's PHRF. Melges 20, Melges 24, but the most impressive thing
was an all carbon Viper 640 that even led the fleet to the
windward mark in 4 knot wind and gained a little on each leg,
especially downwind.
Chuck
*/Resolute/*
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
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*From: *"dwight" <[email protected]>
*To: *[email protected], [email protected]
*Sent: *Saturday, March 8, 2014 10:04:05 AM
*Subject: *Re: Stus-List Boat Names
K25, which was a really slippery little boat, raced side by side
with a C&C 37R in goods winds under spinnaker on a long run in
from Chebucto Head and we held our own easy...only 3 of us onboard
that day...very memorable day...First in Class I seem to
recall...Bob may have a say on that day too
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