Great story. 
Some boats can be exceptional. Some crews can make a good boat even faster. You 
guys sound like you knew what you were doing. Sometimes the planets allign and 
a good boat w good sails and a crew who trim them well, make a huge difference. 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Atlantic City, NJ 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Abbott" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 12:41:20 PM 
Subject: Stus-List Kirby 25 verses C&C 37R 


Chuck: 

This particular K25 was a fast boat.....as I mentioned in an earlier post, it 
was stripped out and made race ready at the Bruckmann factory in 
Mississauga.....even after all of the work Mark Bruckmann did to the K25, it 
was class legal. For example, he had the bottom 'long sanded' and the foils 
were made 'perfect'. The sails were made by Hugh Beaton of the North Sails loft 
in Toronto.....if anyone could make sails for a K25, it is Hugh Beaton. 

When I was in the process of buying the K25 from Mark Bruckmann, I asked him to 
install a 'marine head' in the vee berth before he shipped the boat to 
me.....he had the ways and means to do it a lot better that me. I though at 
that moment he would not sell the boat to me because he said it would slow it 
down. 

Well, the J24 fleet around here called us 'the annoying red Kirby'....we were 
beating them boat for boat most days. One day in early August, we hauled the 
K25 on the club's crane to clean the bottom and a few of the J24 racers took 
the opportunity to come over to inspect her.....they asked what modifications 
had been done to the boat to make it so fast.....I told them I had had a 
'marine 'head' install in the vee berth complete with thru hulls. Needless to 
say, they went away totally perplexed. 

The downwind run against the 37R, Dwight leaves the cockpit and has a dump in 
the head.....the first to use it for that purpose.....too funny! 

On another race, we were dueling boat for boat with a J24 to the finish 
line....long story but he came up and bumped us and cried foul.....I accepted 
the foul and did a 360 or 720, can't remember exactly, and we still beat the 
J24 across the line. There was no way the J24's could deal with this K25 
downwind. Dwight might remember that race and finish....I am pretty sure he was 
on board. 

Rob Abbott 
AZURA 
C&C 32 - 84 
Halifax, N.S. 


On 2014/03/08 7:42 PM, dwight wrote: 





Chuck 



I was on Bob and Glen’s K25 as rail meat I guess because at that time in my 
life I could add a lot to rail meat and we were not planing, just holding our 
own downwind with a C&C 37R…good wind but not planing for us as I recall…maybe 
Bob will remember better, cause I was in the head for some of it, think I may 
have been the first to use that head and that left he a Glen in control…but it 
was downwind so they did not really need me and maybe my weight forward was 
advantageous, who knows…think I might have been the first to use the new head 
that Bob installed on that slippery little K25, 40 Yard 3 Bin that was her name 
and she was swift that’s for sure and we had a lot of fun with that boat…I 
would recommend a K25 to anyone with racing aspirations 






From: CnC-List [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Chuck S 
Sent: March 8, 2014 11:50 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Stus-List Kirby 25 verses C&C 37R 




Hi Dwight, 
I imagine the Kirby 25 was planing and surfing while you guys were not able to? 

I hate when they put planing boats in with our division, but that's PHRF. 
Melges 20, Melges 24, but the most impressive thing was an all carbon Viper 640 
that even led the fleet to the windward mark in 4 knot wind and gained a little 
on each leg, especially downwind. 



Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Atlantic City, NJ 
----- Original Message -----


From: "dwight" < [email protected] > 
To: [email protected] , [email protected] 
Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2014 10:04:05 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Names 

K25, which was a really slippery little boat, raced side by side with a C&C 37R 
in goods winds under spinnaker on a long run in from Chebucto Head and we held 
our own easy…only 3 of us onboard that day…very memorable day…First in Class I 
seem to recall…Bob may have a say on that day too 





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