Dwight, How did the Kirby 25 do against the 37R upwind, and was the 37R well sailed in general?
Was the Kirby "hitch'n a ride" on the 37's stern wave? Best regards, Martin Calypso 1971 C&C 43 Seattle From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of dwight Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Kirby 25 verses C&C 37R Yea that Kirby 25 was a lively little boat and well equipped with "go fast" gear. I don't think we were planing but certainly up to hull speed alongside that 37R...a huge contrast in spinnakers there, a fractional rig triradial kite on the Kirby (3/4 fractional I think) and masthead triradial on the 37R, we felt very small. Bob was driving and Glenn and I trimmed, and I needed relief, glad we had that new head on board that day...that must have been even more perplexing for the 37R, man goes below and forward and still they can't pull away...I guess all the work I thought I was doing in the cockpit did not really matter anyway!!! ________________________________ From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck S Sent: March 10, 2014 5:32 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List Kirby 25 verses C&C 37R Great story. Some boats can be exceptional. Some crews can make a good boat even faster. You guys sound like you knew what you were doing. Sometimes the planets allign and a good boat w good sails and a crew who trim them well, make a huge difference. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ ________________________________ From: "Robert Abbott" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 12:41:20 PM Subject: Stus-List Kirby 25 verses C&C 37R Chuck: This particular K25 was a fast boat.....as I mentioned in an earlier post, it was stripped out and made race ready at the Bruckmann factory in Mississauga.....even after all of the work Mark Bruckmann did to the K25, it was class legal. For example, he had the bottom 'long sanded' and the foils were made 'perfect'. The sails were made by Hugh Beaton of the North Sails loft in Toronto.....if anyone could make sails for a K25, it is Hugh Beaton. When I was in the process of buying the K25 from Mark Bruckmann, I asked him to install a 'marine head' in the vee berth before he shipped the boat to me.....he had the ways and means to do it a lot better that me. I though at that moment he would not sell the boat to me because he said it would slow it down. Well, the J24 fleet around here called us 'the annoying red Kirby'....we were beating them boat for boat most days. One day in early August, we hauled the K25 on the club's crane to clean the bottom and a few of the J24 racers took the opportunity to come over to inspect her.....they asked what modifications had been done to the boat to make it so fast.....I told them I had had a 'marine 'head' install in the vee berth complete with thru hulls. Needless to say, they went away totally perplexed. The downwind run against the 37R, Dwight leaves the cockpit and has a dump in the head.....the first to use it for that purpose.....too funny! On another race, we were dueling boat for boat with a J24 to the finish line....long story but he came up and bumped us and cried foul.....I accepted the foul and did a 360 or 720, can't remember exactly, and we still beat the J24 across the line. There was no way the J24's could deal with this K25 downwind. Dwight might remember that race and finish....I am pretty sure he was on board. Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/03/08 7:42 PM, dwight wrote: Chuck I was on Bob and Glen's K25 as rail meat I guess because at that time in my life I could add a lot to rail meat and we were not planing, just holding our own downwind with a C&C 37R...good wind but not planing for us as I recall...maybe Bob will remember better, cause I was in the head for some of it, think I may have been the first to use that head and that left he a Glen in control...but it was downwind so they did not really need me and maybe my weight forward was advantageous, who knows...think I might have been the first to use the new head that Bob installed on that slippery little K25, 40 Yard3 Bin that was her name and she was swift that's for sure and we had a lot of fun with that boat...I would recommend a K25 to anyone with racing aspirations ________________________________ From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck S Sent: March 8, 2014 11:50 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Stus-List Kirby 25 verses C&C 37R Hi Dwight, I imagine the Kirby 25 was planing and surfing while you guys were not able to? I hate when they put planing boats in with our division, but that's PHRF. Melges 20, Melges 24, but the most impressive thing was an all carbon Viper 640 that even led the fleet to the windward mark in 4 knot wind and gained a little on each leg, especially downwind. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ ________________________________ From: "dwight" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2014 10:04:05 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat Names K25, which was a really slippery little boat, raced side by side with a C&C 37R in goods winds under spinnaker on a long run in from Chebucto Head and we held our own easy...only 3 of us onboard that day...very memorable day...First in Class I seem to recall...Bob may have a say on that day too _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
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