Typically the tiller pilots never had them; if you think about it, if you have 
tiller steering, you don’t have a quadrant to attach the transducer to.  And 
the older wheelpilots just used a fluxgate compass to steer to.  But the 
results weren’t always as good as they could be, so the ST4000+ added the 
transducer (which has pretty much always been a part of the below-deck pilot 
installations) to improve its performance, particularly downwind (which is 
problematic for many pilots).

The new Raymarine EVO pilot systems still use the transducer; but Raymarine 
says it’s “recommended”, not necessary.  According to the EV install manual:

> The connection of a rudder reference unit is highly recommended, to help 
> ensure optimum autopilot performance...
> 
> Certain environmental conditions such as a cross-current can cause the 
> autopilot system to steer persistently to port or starboard, even when the 
> rudder is centered.  With a rudder reference unit connected to your autopilot 
> system, you can use an autopilot control head to specify an offset angle in 
> +/– degrees to compensate for inaccurate rudder angle information caused by 
> such conditions.
> 
> The more accurate the rudder angle information, the more accurately the 
> autopilot system can keep to a correct course.

And for Pete Shelquist, even Garmin offers it as an option:

> Add Even More Peace of Mind
> Add an optional GRF 10 rudder feedback sensor and you can further enhance the 
> performance of your GHP Reactor autopilot with SmartPump.

:^)

— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(



> On Oct 11, 2015, at 11:06 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> From all the comments over the past few years I know that David’s comment is 
> true. But I have always wondered “WHY?”. What changed to make the rudder 
> position sensor essential?
>  
> Over the years I’ve had an Autohelm tillerpilot (800 I think) on a 27 and a 
> Raymarine 1000 tillerpilot on my 25 with tiller steering. A Raymarine 3000 
> belt driven wheel pilot. And there is a Navico 5000 wheel pilot on my 38 (I’m 
> sure it isn’t older than dirt, but it is almost older than plastic). None of 
> these has a wheel sensor – relying only on heading information from the 
> fluxgate compass built into them to steer the boat. All of them worked well. 
>  
> The Navico took a bit of adjustment to the settings to optimize performance 
> (I suspect the PO had never set it up since the wheel lock to lock setting 
> was the default and not the proper number for the boat), but once set up the 
> wheelpilot will steer the boat for miles and miles without a variance from 
> the desired heading of over a degree or two.
>  
> So what has changed with the newer autopilots to make the rudder position 
> sensor so important?
>  
> Rick Brass
> Imzadi  C&C 38 mk 2
> la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1
> Washington, NC

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