> To expand, I think ultimately all that matters is that a project be
> given the space it wants in an attempt to let it flourish. If the
> Maven developers want to be left entirely alone why is that a concern?
Well, I'm not entirely sure how wanting to be left alone fits into an
atmosphere of collaboration and Community. If anything, my concern is
greater now because of the attitude than it was yesterday because of the
code.
> If we compete head-on with [project X] why is that a concern?
> You cannot force relationships between groups when the
> desire to do so does not emanate in mutual proportion
> from both parties.
As a matter of fact, you can. We did that with CORBA v1 when we told DEC
and Sun/HP that they had 90 days to submit a joint proposal that merged
DEC's DII with Sun/HP's IDL. But that's besides the point.
You have already indicated that there is a synergistic relationship between
Maven and Ant, so the relationship appears to exist. Where is the missing
mutuality? You keep raising other "competing" projects as points of
discord. Personally, if they don't work well, I encourage you to complete
and replace.
> We don't want to grouped under the same PMC as Ant. How's that?
Why not?
> Just as James as separated from Avalon
The semantic domain for Avalon is to provide a component model programming
platform for application development. The semantic domain for James is
messaging. They are not related at the semantic level. The same is not
true of Ant and Maven.
--- Noel
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