Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> >
> > Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > > All I report are serious! There are plenty of others which I hold
> > > off reporting till the serious ones are fixed. For example, the
> > > last thing the installer should do is run makewhatis and updatedb,
> > > otherwise a half-dozen useful/essential commands do not work.
> > > Reported during 7.0 beta. Still not done for the 7.1 beta. It's
> > > only a two liner before exiting, surely?
> >
> > Maybe we do not want to do it, didn't you suppose that?
>
> Then the responsible thing would be to respond?
Yes, you are perfectly right.
It's just that so many emails are going through there [I'm fighting
currently with my 140 unread messages :-(]
So, sometimes, people just read, and think "hell, I'm not interested", and
don't have time to argue why they think they won't agree.
But I agree we should always answer.
Erhm, let's hire some more people here :-).
> > Can you imagine the reaction of the people if we make a "updatedb" at the
> > end of install, blocking the system for 2-3 minutes.. When you wait and
> > nothing happens, 150 seconds are really long seconds!
>
> Linux is not viable until it is done. Does it not worry you that in
> your scenario the man pages for these commands would be untrue and
> misleading? Shame on you!
We're talking about "updatedb". Why are you telling me it is not viable?
man updatedb
NAME
updatedb - update the slocate database
man slocate
DESCRIPTION
Secure Locate provides a secure way to index and quickly search for files on
your system.
slocate Enables system users to search entire filesystems without displaying
unauthorized files.
Unless I'm completely lost in space, are you sure you are not inside a
confusion..!?
> > > > You don't need to lose your time, daily, that way.
> > > >
> > > > The best you can do is to extensively test the beta & final versions.
> > > >
> > > > Cooker is just for development people.
> > >
> > > Wrong! The present Cooker is the 7.1 beta, and the Cooker mailing
> > ^^^^^^
> >
> > weee. :-(
> >
> > btw, you're wrong, the present Cooker is not the 7.1 beta as it was
> > released a week ago, as an iso image.
>
> Point me to the announcement to beta testers of that release,
> please. I am unaware of it.
>
> iso images are pointless, totally unnecessary, and wasteful, but are
> provided as an alternative download option for those non-thinkers
> that conventionally expect them and who applied pressure to get them
> (they were NOT originally supplied). They are NOT the primary
> distribution during beta testing, and never have been. If you think
> differently, perhaps you need to educate Gael Duval? Or is it you
> that is not aware of, or not obeying, his published instructions?
You're right, invoking the God is always the best solution to force the
lost little newbie to be more kind. :-)
Unless I'm again completely lost in space [uh, it's late out there, maybe
I am :-)) and please pardon me], basically, what I understood is: [but I
did not have the luck to get some private lessons from Mr Duval,
unfortunately]
- we make iso's because it's easier to download [provided you have the
line to download 650 mb] and that way we can `stop the beta' at one sole
point and have bugreports for static versions of each package, and also
because we're sure the different file-lists [with which we've had so much
trouble lately] are known to work ;
- and Cooker is the place of uploads of new packages, thus evolving
day-by-day, thus sometimes having bigger [but temporary] problems that the
iso's ; but with Cooker we are always able to fix the latest problem in
that apache-module-which-definitely-rocks-but-has-severe-issue.
Well, worth my newbie's experience :-).
--
Guillaume Cottenceau
