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Bob, I wish you were closer to Fresno, I'd help for nothing. Anyone that's close enough to me here in Fresno I'll help out. We need to support each other to make the cost of flying affordable. If anyone wants to recover a set of wings, and can find a garage or barn or hangar in the Fresno area I will work with you. I will let you do all the work, supervise where needed and then complete the 337 form for you. I just finished my wings and it's really easy to do (time consuming, but easy). I have been in aviation since 1975, when I was just 16 years old and have worked on and around many aspects of aviation- from commercial jets, military fighters, gliders light GA. I have seen people's reactions to the fighters, bombers, big airliners or the aerobatic ships with the big sponsors. I still appreciate all those types of planes, but the one thing that I truly find exceptional is the guy (or gal) who owns his own plane, does all the work, pays for it out of his own pocket, knows it better than his car and enjoys flying it. The true heroes of aviation! Jan Z IA, Fresno, Ca On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:47:19 -0700 Bob Saville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following > any advice in this forum.]---- > > Hi Alan and fellow coupers, > > I agree with Alan completely!!! I learned the hard way. > There is a gentleman (snicker-snicker) down here in my area who > makes his living working on > airplanes. After costing me a little over $3,000 for a job that I > wasn't happy with I got out my A/C > Logbooks and told him to just sign it off and leave my hangar. > That's when the other shoe fell....."I can't sign it off, I > don't have any kind of a license or > anything". (I was 'screwed', big time!) He told 'me' to go find an > IA to sign it off "if I wanted it > entered in my logbooks". > I said, "you mean you've cost me over $3,000 to make my airplane > 'illegal' and now I can't fly it? > Either you give me my money back or I'll take you to court". > His reply was that if I said anything about it, in or out of > court, he'd counter-sue me for > defamation of character. His father was there also and he said he'd > back him financially. (Daddy has > money, so I could spend BIG bucks and even if (when) I win I'd be > another 10K or so in debt.) So, how > can I win? > I ordered them off of my property and told them they were never > to return onto my "private" airport > again. > I asked three IA's if they'd sign it off for me and they all > refused. I don't blame them, they > didn't see the 'inside' of the job, only the finished product so why > should they put their reputaion and > license on the line? This was early summer of 1998 and I'm still > not flying! > I found another guy who has since redone my wings and we are now > doing a very intense annual on it > since it's been sitting for over two years. (The guy I'm using now > can only work on it one day a week so > it's taking a long time.) And get this, he's legal and he's only > charging me $1,000 (I supply the > materials) for his labor on the wings AND an annual. AND HE'S > LEGAL!!! > > My advice to everyone out there.....before you let ANYONE touch > your airplane, make sure he's > legitimate. Just because he does it for a living doesn't mean he's > legal. > I aked an FAA 'person' (indirectly) what I can do to put this > guy out of business and he said he > wasn't breaking any laws as long as he didn't sign off anything > stating that he was an AP/IA. > Our friends, the feds. That's like saying it's okay to rob banks > as long as you don't get caught. > > I guess I've 'cried' about this long enough, thanks for > listening. Sob, Sob. > > (Golly gee whiz, I may have to take flying lessons again. Is flying > like riding a bicycle, you never > forget how?) OF COURSE IT IS!!! ( in a coupe) ; - ))))) > > Bob 'grounded' Saville > N3396H 415C > Eugene, OR > > Alan Lail wrote: > > > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before > following any advice in this forum.]---- > > > > The A&P must have a IA rating to sign off the whole job. An A&P > can only > > sign off a minor repair. The FAA considers recovering a whole wing > a > > major repair. This is according to 14 CFR part 65, section 65.95 > of the > > FAR's. > > Having worked with Stits products in the past, I have a tendency > to go > > with their products. But if you research a little, you will find > several > > other equal products on the market to use of variable costs. I > also > > believe I read an article on the use of a approved, water-based > line > > that works well. Just make sure its STC, PMA approved by the FAA > before > > you get started, and have an A&P with IA endorsement on hand when > you > > need one. It's their signature that will get you back in the air - > > legally. > > > > Alan > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Could someone advise of about how much it cost to have the wings > > > recovered > > > and if it has to be done by an AP. Also do the wings have to > come off ? > > > thanks ED > > > > __________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from this list please send > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 > > Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics > > __________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from this list please send > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___________________________________________________________ > T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 > Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics > > __________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list please send mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___________________________________________________________ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
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