Hi Sean, Not wanting to sidetrack the discussion, but here's the gist of the peer-based vetting from a discussion you can find in this group archives. This is what Alex had to say:
"All that said, we've had two thefts take place inside of 4 years, with over 100 members and thousands of people through our doors. Both were "inside jobs", and we responded by improving our social awareness instead of locking things down. In the most recent case, we instituted a "three signature rule" for new full time members. After 1 month of "waiting period", a new member needs to get 3 signatures from existing full time members that they trust them with a key. This creates a simple structure for getting to know each other a bit better over lunch, drinks, coffee, etc." Somebody called it the Circle of Trust, a reference to the Ben Stiller / Robert De Niro movie "Meet The Parents<http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0212338/>" and it stuck, at least for some of us. Tying this back to security, we liked this approach and so do our members, plus it's simple and inexpensive to implement. We like to keep our systems simple and use them until they no longer meet our needs. For example, we don't meter printing because we don't have any heavy users. The few that are moderate users are balanced by those that never print anything. If there comes a time when printer use grows, then we'll turn on the per user metering in the printer (we're using a Canon D1350 multifunction printer, by the way). On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Sean Qian <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for the reply Glen. > > I've just placed an order for the SHS-3320. I'll update here on how it > goes. There's a good installation video on youtube which I'm glad to > discover. > > Starting off there will only be 5 of us and we're all friends. I'm going > to give them all discounted rates to use the space any time they want > during business hours. Less admin for me whilst the space gets going. > > Where can I learn more about Alex's Circle of trust? It sounds interesting. > > > On Thursday, July 25, 2013 1:39:52 AM UTC+10, Glen Ferguson wrote: > >> Hi Sean, >> >> I've looked at the Samsung locks and considered the deadbolt version for >> our space (I can't change the door handle, but can change the >> deadbolt/nightlatch). It seems pretty versatile and the cost is decent. >> Unfortunately for us, having a second lock violates fire code, so for now >> we just give keys to the members with 24/7 access and tell them to keep the >> deadbolt unlatched when they're in the building. We adopted Alex's "Circle >> of Trust" vetting method which is working well. When we get more 24/7 >> members, we'll look at a swipe card solution. I'm leaning towards a >> Honeywell NetAXS-123 which has a web interface, but it's rather pricey. >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Sean Qian <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I've been doing research on access and security options and have come >>> across a range of digital locks made by Samsung. They are called the SHS >>> range. >>> >>> Has anyone come across these or used them in their place? >>> >>> The one I'm looking at (SHS-3320) accepts digital pass code, RFID, NFC >>> or key card. It can even accept up to 70 users which will be more than >>> enough for my space. >>> >>> The only downside I can see so far with this system is that it isn't >>> networked so it can't tell me who or when someone has used their keypass to >>> enter the office. >>> >>> Any other solutions I should look into? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 12:21:02 PM UTC+10, Sean Qian wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Jerome, >>>> >>>> Cheers for the detailed responses. I've had a few days to think things >>>> over since posting and agree with most of your feedback. >>>> >>>> I like the idea of using google calendar to manage things, at least >>>> initially. I can have it so that members can access the calendar themselves >>>> to book things such as the meeting room correct? >>>> >>>> How do space operators usually manage access? Keypad access with >>>> individual code for each member? Or Keypass cards where members get a card >>>> each? >>>> >>>> Btw Blankspaces looks amazing! >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Sean >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 7:22:04 AM UTC+10, Jerome wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi. See below. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jerome >>>>> ______________ >>>>> BLANKSPACES >>>>> "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself" >>>>> >>>>> www.blankspaces.com >>>>> 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 >>>>> 323.330.9505 (office) >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 20, 2013, at 3:50 AM, Sean Qian <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> HI All, >>>>> >>>>> My name's Sean and I'm planning on starting a co-working space for my >>>>> colleagues and I in a few months. We're all newly registered migration >>>>> agents and are hoping to get our own businesses up and running. We've been >>>>> meeting at least once a month, usually at a restaurant, to talk over cases >>>>> and to catch up but I figure we'd be a lot more productive working >>>>> together >>>>> a few days a week. >>>>> >>>>> Through a family connection I've managed to secure a premises on >>>>> Collins Street, which is one of Melbourne CBD's (Central Business District >>>>> ie Down town) premier street locations at a very reasonable rental rate. >>>>> I've also negotiated a free period which I'm sure will come in handy. >>>>> >>>>> The office is approx 90m2, has a large open area, 2 decent sizes >>>>> office rooms, a kitchenette and a small office which can be used as a >>>>> private room or phone call room. I've uploaded a quick floorplan I drew >>>>> for >>>>> those interested. >>>>> >>>>> I've been doing a lot of research about the movement and am so eager >>>>> to meet all sorts of different people through the process of having a >>>>> space, but I've got a few beginner questions which I'm hoping can be >>>>> discussed and answered here. >>>>> >>>>> 1. So far, I think I'm going to have 3 membership packages - an all >>>>> access pass, 3 days a week, and the casual 1 day a week. How can I keep a >>>>> track of who comes in and when? Is the only solution to purchase/create >>>>> some kind of management software like Nexudus or Cobot? I'd like to not >>>>> have to sit at the front desk all the time. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For a space this small, a combo of your looking up, and your trusting >>>>> that people will use what they pay for...this should suffice. >>>>> Even a quick Google Calendar could work. Or perhaps enlist a >>>>> SharedDesk/LiquidSpace/etc. and they can check in via that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2. Let's say the office has 85m2 of usable workstation space after the >>>>> kitchenette is taken out, how should I calculate how many members I can >>>>> there at any one time, and how many members I can have there overall? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> layout the space. >>>>> generally, people assume you can sell 2x more memberships than there >>>>> are seats. I've seen higher in my space...I've seen lower. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 3. Should I concentrate my advertising/marketing towards other >>>>> migration agents or similar professionals or be more broad? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In my opinion, broad. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 4. What are some must have things? Photocopier/Printer? Couches? Water >>>>> tank? I will supply a small fridge, microwave. coffee machine, kettle, tea >>>>> and coffee beans. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In my opinion, printer. There are many combo units for <$200. >>>>> Usually, copying isn't ideal but it can be done. Printing is the core >>>>> function. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Any feedback on the above would be greatly appreciated. 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