the northern part of indonesia is aceh and they also want to secede
since they have had their own kings and sultans for many
generations. indonesia is a modern construct after the second
world war. there are many christians and hindus that would not
want to be part of the javanese controlled country, and the leadership
is fearful of this breakup.
rgds
leelock
----- Original Message -----
From: "Julien Pierrehumbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [CrashList] Self Determination- Support It!
> >>BOTH Australia (and allies) and Indonesia obviously. You don't have to
> >>take sides.
> >
> >Indonesia is imperialist? How so, and by what criteria? This kind of
> >vulgarisation is likely to get us nowhere, where you use imperialist as
your
> >own synonym for bad. I am disappointed, Julien.
> >
> >Macdonald
>
> I knew I should have left this 36486th Kosovo-like thread alone.
Nevertheless,
> let's answer the questions...
>
> I know there's not much use in using a dictionary with such words as
> totalitarian, left, imperialist, etc. but since Mac is attacking me
without saying
> from which perspective, I can use no defense except the generic one...
>
> noun: imperialism
> 1. A policy of extending your rule over foreign countries
> 2. A political orientation that advocates imperial interests
> 3. Any instance of aggressive extension of authority
>
> Indeed, this looks a bit like a synonym for bad, but it's more like a
subcategory
> in fact.
> So, how does it apply? There was a big country, Indonesia and a small new
> one, East Timor. The big one comes and extends its rule over the small
one.
> Simple enough for me. And definitions 2 and 3 also apply.
> You could say that East Timor was not really a country but an imperial
leftover,
> but so was Indonesia, and so is the USA, and most countries. Are we going
to
> argue that the USA can not be imperialist towards Cuba because both
> countries are colonial leftovers?
>
>
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