ya. but whatever they come out with. it will end up with a mod. I run custom 
skins on my css server. if I turn them off. not one player will ask about them. 
so that’s not what the game is about to MOST of the players. they are making 
cstrike. and that’s what players will be looking for.

From: 1nsane 
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 6:43 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] This game should be free

This provides more official servers that valve doesn't have to pay for. Or 
perhaps valve even gets a cut of the revenue. Also because of this there's 
official servers in areas where there wouldn't be any... I mean where valve 
wouldn't bother adding any (look at what is going on with TF2's Mann Up mode 
and EU/Australian players). 

Of course it would be the best if we (the community) could run these servers. 
Perhaps have a special mode of server where modifications are not allowed and a 
registration required (like TF2 but more strict). But that is harder to 
implement and maintain.

So I guess what ends up happening is valve lets Pinion run servers in exchange 
for ads and then they don't need to worry about running servers themselves.

In all honesty the whole splitting of the community just sucks. CS and CS:S 
would not... scratch that.. valve would not be where it is now were it not for 
the community running servers and creating mods. But as valve moves forward it 
seems like we are being forgotten. Official servers in CS:GO getting priority, 
official servers in DOTA 2 only (and that game was a modification to begin 
with!). Seems short sited to me, but then again valve is just too big now. They 
can do this. Letting Pinion run official servers in exchange for ads is just 
too convenient and it also has the added benefit of having servers in more 
locations with no service/maintenance costs.

Granted this would be much more fitting to find on official TF2 servers, but...


On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Russell Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

  I do not watch the ad, but I resent greatly it being put there in the first 
place. 

  There was a thread a couple weeks back on the hlds list regarding community 
servers doing this in TF2.  While I don't agree with their decision to use ads 
on their servers I can at least understand their reason for doing so.  Running 
a community costs a lot of money and ads help them pay these costs.

  This to me is a different situation.  Pinion is not trying to run a 
community.  They've undoubtedly bought their status as official servers from 
Valve, and now they're going to use that status to churn out advertising 
revenue from players who don't know any better being siphoned into their 
servers by the matchmaking. 


  On 9/2/2012 6:01 PM, Absurd Minds wrote:

    You watch the ad? Just click OK and don't worry about it

    On Sep 2, 2012 8:59 PM, "Russell Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:

      If the official Valve sanctioned experience is one in which you're forced 
to watch a Pinion ad every time you want to play a game why exactly does this 
game have a price tag attached to it?

      Splitting up the matchmaking into official and community pools is already 
salt in the eye to those of us trying to run communities. But letting an 
advertising agency run official servers held above all of our community servers 
is shady as fuck for a game that you're charging money for.

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