Hmmm... I hope they don't make it so community servers can no longer run operation maps, too. That would be the logical conclusion to that line of thinking. On Jul 8, 2015 2:25 PM, "Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek" < [email protected]> wrote:
> Following that rule you wouldn't be allowed to have any custom content > (maps, models, gamemodes) at all. > It specifically says "csgo items" with reference to the player's > inventory, meaning this is about real items with a market value. > > Let's not forget why this request exists: OPs allowed players to gain > access to all items of marketable value (against fees/"donations"). > > On 08.07.2015 20:19, Absurd Minds wrote: > > I'm not sure. It almost seems like it could go either way. It says > allowing users to gain access to csgo items that aren't in their inventory. > I would read that to mean that skins that are not officially part of the > csgo game/economy can be given on servers. But I don't know. It might > "devalue" skins of there are better skins available off the market in > community servers. > On Jul 8, 2015 2:17 PM, "Wareya" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Sorry to whoever I'm quoting in advance; this is off-topic. >> >> Is it an alien idea for servers to run plugins that give people... >> Unique, custom skins? Stuff that isn't part of the CSGO economy in the >> first place. I remember CS 1.6 servers doing this for years. Do the new >> CSGO rules disallow things this far? >> >> On 7/8/2015 2:04 PM, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek wrote: >> >>> I wasn't implying that the community should review the reports and rate >>> their validity. I was merely referring to the point-giving so players >>> feel encouraged to keep the community clean. >>> >>> On 08.07.2015 19:55, Absurd Minds wrote: >>> >>>> I think this would be a horrible idea. Less-than-upstanding >>>> communities could easily "vote brigade" a server and send their >>>> players to report competing or more popular servers. We know Valve's >>>> promise that "all overwatches would be reviewed while in beta before >>>> any bans are given" was a lie, so I can only assume there would be >>>> absolutely no oversight on this process as well. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> A different idea: >>>> Since overwatch is out of beta, it gives you rank points for >>>> accurate reviews. Why not do the same for reporting servers? >>>> >>>> >>>> On 08.07.2015 19:40, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek wrote: >>>> >>>>> Give people a chance to flag their servers as inapplicable for >>>>> giving out rank points. This should for example apply to idle >>>>> servers. If they get caught not complying, they get blacklisted. bb >>>>> >>>>> On 08.07.2015 19:03, Absurd Minds wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think it would be incredibly difficult (if not impossible) to >>>>>> implement, though. As Jack M. mentioned, there needs to be some >>>>>> way to deal with idle servers. And XP is given out based on game >>>>>> mode + points earned at the end of the match. Something like a >>>>>> 1v1 server (which is technically generally run in a classic >>>>>> casual game mode) issues you points based on what arena you're >>>>>> in. Somebody who goes 35:10 for the whole map and happens to end >>>>>> in the bottom arena would gain less XP than somebody who just >>>>>> joined, goes 8:0, and ends in the top arena. Or somebody who >>>>>> plays 10 minutes in deathmatch would get significantly less XP >>>>>> than somebody who plays 10 minutes in a FFA deathmatch, just >>>>>> because they have fewer targets to kill. >>>>>> >>>>>> It sounded like a good idea while I was typing it, but I think >>>>>> in practicality, it would either be impossible or it would turn >>>>>> into something like "You can earn XP on your servers if you have >>>>>> such-and-such cvars enabled and you're not running this or that >>>>>> plugin", which would probably upset the community even more. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Geo B. <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Definitely the best compromise ! >>>>>> >>>>>> 2015-07-08 17:00 GMT+02:00 Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek >>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>>>>> >>>>>> That's a nice suggestion! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 08.07.2015 16:58, Absurd Minds wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Earning xp is simply just a barrier to entry into >>>>>>> valve's matchmaking. It would be completely pointless >>>>>>> if it were allowed on community servers. (However, if >>>>>>> they made it so after rank three you could earn xp on >>>>>>> community servers, that would solve both sides of the >>>>>>> issue.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 8, 2015 6:27 AM, "L33TGaming" >>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As a server operator myself, in my opinion the best >>>>>>> way to go about this >>>>>>> issue would be for Valve to patch the commands that >>>>>>> server operators use to >>>>>>> give weapon skins or knives or whatever they >>>>>>> decide. That way, we know which >>>>>>> plugin can be used without being worried about >>>>>>> breaking the rules and >>>>>>> running in grey areas. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alternatively, I suggest a compromise for this >>>>>>> situation, where servers that >>>>>>> run weapon skins or knifes plugins are unranked, >>>>>>> such that players do not >>>>>>> receive XP, whilst servers that don't run these >>>>>>> weapon skins or knifes >>>>>>> plugins and conform to an set of "ranked" rules >>>>>>> will have XP drops for >>>>>>> players. 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