there are still servers using knife and weapon skin plugins, is there any benefit for us who disabled those plugins, or can I just re enable them again?
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Andre Müller <[email protected]> wrote: > With CS:GO I stopped hosting gameservers. In my opinion it was from the > beginning a dead horse for public gaming. I played a lot CS:GO matchmaking, > a little bit casual (Gungame, Deathmatch), but I am too old for this. I was > sick of getting updates, which aren't working and where I was forced to do > my own workarounds for a gameserver provider. On client side the GUI is > sick. Friends having the few days problems with VAC. They got kicked from > mostly all mm servers. A girlfriend has problem with the matchmaikng > system. It takes mostly a half hour until it works. Also steamcmd sucks. > How the hell they could realease this tool, which was broken by design. Not > to host gameservers makes me so more chilled :-) > It makes not difference to me, if Valve kills the CS:GO community or not. > The community seems already to be dead. This is my feeling. > > [email protected] <[email protected]> schrieb am Di., 14. > Juli 2015 um 21:57 Uhr: > >> Absolutely right! Thx for the wall of text with a lot of right >> arguments! >> >> Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android >> http://www.aqua-mail.com >> >> Am 14. Juli 2015 15:27:42 schrieb Michael Loveless < >> [email protected]>: >> >>> I understand that even as community server operators, many of us are in >>> direct competition with each other for traffic, loyal patrons, market >>> share, whatever. But at the end of the day we are all part of what is a >>> clearly dying breed and I think that in a time like this it's completely >>> unnecessary for anyone to come in here to bad mouth others and be >>> disrespectful about the potential quality of someone's community because >>> they are upset that of all things Valve chooses to contact us about... it's >>> regarding non-marketable versions of skins and not about any one of the >>> optimization, performance, or gameplay issues that have plagued servers for >>> the past 3 years. Not everyone is in a niche environment with their servers >>> with die hard community members. Many of us compete in a high demand "game >>> mode market" (5v5, dm, 1v1, etc..) that doesn't offer a lot of wiggle room >>> for uniqueness to the extent that it completely sets us apart from others. >>> Even having little things like vanilla knives which aren't in a player's >>> inventory, and obviously doesn't give them a false sense of ownership, are >>> just nice little things that don't change the game play experience but >>> offer a little extra for players to enjoy while on our servers. Does >>> wanting that on our servers, which has ZERO effect on how much money >>> friggin Valve makes, mean we should be subject to hate and shit talk from >>> people who are essentially doing the same thing we are but have a different >>> view on the matter? >>> >>> We are all struggling for the same thing, a little piece of the pie and >>> to create an enjoyable environment doing something we love. The enemy here >>> is not each other. Valve may not necessarily be the enemy but there is >>> absolutely no denying that they are going out of there way to shut out >>> communities and that's what we should be pissed about, not that some people >>> want a !knife plugin and others think that we are shitty owners for wanting >>> it. We all know how each of the past 2 Operations have been entirely geared >>> towards official servers. We all know the new XP system has taken that a >>> step further. Those are 2 major obstacles community servers have to >>> overcome. Then comes the part about drops. You get something like 4 per >>> week on community servers (or outside the XP system), which is perfectly >>> fine, but jesus christ can we stop getting 5 Operation-old cases that >>> hardly sell for .03 on the market? Couldn't we get a few new collections of >>> mostly junk skins to replace the original junk skins (sand dunes, >>> contractors, etc.)? How about a NEW E SPORTS CASE? That is a community >>> driven product that not only helps community servers, but helps pro players >>> and organizations, as well as feeds the most important entity of them >>> all...Valve. >>> >>> What gets me the most is why Valve wants to kill off community servers >>> in favor of their own. Their servers are literally an expense. Without ads >>> there is zero monetization. Sure, buying the Operation pass is profit and >>> can certainly afford them servers...but their servers put another negative >>> mark on their already extensive list of reasons why people hate them for >>> the things going on in this game. They force players onto these shit casual >>> servers where the VAR is literally stuck in the yellow and it feels like >>> you are playing on a Gameboy Color. Why is this the experience they want to >>> offer millions of players? Not only the poor servers, but all the game >>> modes are straight up broken. 10v10 casual with 15+ VAR and 3 minute (feels >>> like 3 hours) rounds and team tagging? TEAM deathmatch with basically >>> unlimited spawn protection? Gungame where everyone has wallhacks on the >>> leader? Communities all offer these experiences but improved in every way, >>> shape, and form. Why give 7,920,278 players last month such a god awful >>> experience for no reason whatsoever? >>> >>> Sorry for the wall but it's really unfair that people are in here bad >>> mouthing others when we are all in the same fight with a company who let us >>> keep their game alive for 12 years while they did nothing then essentially >>> stole all the community ideas, monetized them while giving minimal profit >>> share (yes, minimal is better than the none they were making before), and >>> are now telling us what we can and can't do with the things we developed >>> and worked hard towards. Comon guys, yall are better than this. YOU TOO >>> VALVE, I know behind the name you are actual people a with conscience. You >>> are doing just fine, stop making life harder for us PLEASE. >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Freehugs < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for the update! >>>> >>>> We'll have these plugins removed from our servers by the end of the >>>> week :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: >>>> http://csgo-servers.1073505.n5.nabble.com/Request-to-Server-Operators-tp9684p9764.html >>>> Sent from the CSGO_Servers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers > > > _______________________________________________ > Csgo_servers mailing list > [email protected] > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >
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