On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 04:59:14 -0000 xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 11:40:09PM -0000, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > Now, here's your fallacy. Because we humans are of course acting > > rationally under pressure. Take Juan's give-me-your-money example: > > in order to actually hand out your money you need to understand my > > intentions, you need to know that I know what you might know etc, > > and then act accordingly. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdYgEDSm7E > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q2KGGMc1EM >
Here's a second video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy75GtKsOAw In that second video apparently he tricks a guy at a jewelry store (a goldsmith?) into selling him a $4500 ring for a stack of white paper. Needless to say, I think the video is fake. The first video you linked might be plausible, especially taking into account that the people he tricks do realize they were tricked after a short while. However the idea that a professional seller of jewelry is going to make a big sale like that, without even COUNTING the bills because he had been chatted up with some nonsense about the subway system is...not plausible. I do think that Darren is socially engineering people. The people who watch their videos, IF they think are real... > Don't be so sure. > > > > > This is rationality at work. > > > THAT is free will. > > Poke around on Youtube and watch a bunch of Derren's stuff. I don't mean this in a confrontational tone, but it seems you are being tricked by Derren... Watch how > he MAKES people make choices that, to them, feel entirely free. > > Listen to him, as he teaches you how it works, WHY it works, and get > an understanding of the limits of rational, conscious free will. > >