Hi,

I still think that is absolutely the wrong thing to do, and makes
debootstrap more fragile for no good reason.  If you think a particular
package shouldn't be priority:required then file a bug against
ftp.debian.org to change it.

Cheers,
Julien

On Sat, Sep 23, 2023 at 20:13:45 +0200, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 06:01:13 +0200 Johannes Schauer <jo...@debian.org> wrote:
> > Quoting Cyril Brulebois (2017-06-24 20:23:25)
> > > Julien Cristau <jcris...@debian.org> (2016-09-12):
> > > > This is a transient situation because some Essential packages'
> > > > dependencies changed.  I'd consider this a bug in the archive, not in
> > > > debootstrap.
> > > Any reasons to keep this bug report open then? Seen no objections, so I'm
> > > tempted to close it.
> > 
> > But... the buildd variant still explicitly (and not only implicitly through
> > dependencies of essential:yes packages) installs Priority:required packages,
> > no?
> 
> as we are at the beginning of the trixie development cycle, I have opened a
> merge request against debootstrap which avoids installing priority:required
> packages with the buildd variant:
> 
> https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/debootstrap/-/merge_requests/106#note_430035
> 
> I've put Ansgar and Julien in CC as they were opposed to this change.
> 
> I'm putting Luca and Guillem in CC who wrote in favour of this change also in
> policy bug #1029831.
> 
> Santiago is in CC as the driver of the mass bug filing for source packages 
> that
> fail to build in a chroot environment with just Essential:yes and
> build-essential installed.
> 
> According to the last MBF from December 2022 and January 2023, there are 13
> source packages that would FTBFS after this change because they are missing an
> explicit build dependency on tzdata or mount.
> 
> As part of the thread starting at
> 9b40f6f2-4942-acfc-2f9c-4668f05d9...@debian.org a number of arguments were 
> made
> for and against this change. I still believe that the arguments for this 
> change
> weigh stronger than those against it and thus I filed that merge request 
> above.
> 
> Luca, as the debootstrap maintainer, what are your thoughts?
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> cheers, josch

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