On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:09:52 +0100 Stephen Gran wrote:

> This one time, at band camp, Francesco Poli said:
> > This still concerns me...
> > I have previously discussed the issue on debian-legal, but I'm not
> > yet convinced that this clause passes the DFSG.
> > 
> > What I do not understand basically boils down to:
> > 
> >   How can a license (allow a licensor to) forbid an accurate credit
> >   and meet the DFSG at the same time?
> And why do you think this violates the DFSG?  Clause 3, which you are
> citing, says that the license must allow derived works, and must allow
> derivates to be licensed under the same terms as the original license.
> I see nothing in there that even remotely implies the original author
> can't take their name out of it.  Leaving aside practical issues, how
> are you arguing that a request to remove a name either changes the
> licensing terms or prohibits derivation?

Well, it prohibits an entire class of derivative works: the ones that
(accurately) credit the author of the original work!
As I said elsewhere: I can release an annotate version of a CC-licensed
novel, but I could be forbidden to accurately acknowledge the authorship
of the novel I comment on!
Don't you feel it's awkward?

I think that forcing modifiers to hide the origin of the work is

Moreover, there's another aspect that concerns me: I'm compelled to
credit the author of the original work (see clause 4(d) of
CC-by-sa-nc-v3draft0808060) until I receive a request to purge such
Does this mean that I must take action upon request, even after the
derivative work has been released, and re-release a revised version?
What if I do not have enough time to do that?
Isn't this a restriction placed on my future life, after I released the
derivative work (when I fullfilled all my obligations, apart from the
ones that were yet unknown)?

But it is also tradition that times *must* and always
do change, my friend.   -- from _Coming to America_
..................................................... Francesco Poli .
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