we had a run-in with SPEWS last month;  a customer of ours uses DSL supplied
by COVAD with an 8-IP block;  SPEWS blocked the entire class-C due to
another complaints about another organization with another 8-block on that
same class-C -

requests to SPEWS were on no use -

It took me calling covad to get involved before it was taken care of -
another case of the innocent guys falling victim to trigger happy soles....


Sincerely,

Randy Armbrecht
Global Web Solutions�, Inc.
804-346-5300 x102
877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x102
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:46 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews News


> FWIW,
> We fell victim to SPEWS in the same way. We were lucky to have an ISP
> that was working hard on the problem and assigned us an additional /28
> network.
> We assigned that to another interface on our firewall and are relaying
> outbound email from that network.
>
> The author of this article is correct: "Trying to deal with the spews
> admins is equivalent to dealing with children - conversations are
> circular and not very productive."
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-owner@;declude.com] On Behalf Of Tom
> > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:44 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews News
> >
> >
> > The following article about Spews is from the Langa List.
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >      Fred, I saw your article regarding SpamCop and wanted to let
> >      you and your readers know about a "service" that is even worse
> >      called Spews. Spews doesn't blacklist sites, it blacklists
> >      entire ip ranges as a way to force domain owners, most of whom
> >      are completely innocent but happen to be within the range of
> >      the IP block, to pressure their ISP or service provider to
> >      shutdown the supposed offending spammer. It is my opinion that
> >      Spews (which is completely unreachable if you wish to object
> >      to your being included in an IP range), is actually run by
> >      spammers - as their actions are so heavy handed that they
> >      cause most users to end up dropping the use of RBLs, and as a
> >      consequence more spam ends up getting through to people's
> >      inboxes. More information about my experience is available at
> >      http://www.allpm.com/article.php?sid=261&mode=&order=0&thold=0
> >      Regards, Michael Lines
> >
>
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