I'll stand by COVAD on this - they have been nothing but 100% responsive to every request we have ever made in the 3 years we have been delaing with them......
the problem we had was all SPEWS. They are too aggressive in their blocking - COVAD had been doing something long before the we reported the problem on our customer's behalf - COVAD had already shut down the reported spammers I mentioned in my first posting weeks prior, and had actually just won a judgement in court against the spammers the day AFTER I reported the problem to them ; this obviously had been in the works for some time - from what I see, COVAD has been very responsive to SPEWS ; SPEWS just chose to ignore them... Sincerely, Randy Armbrecht Global Web Solutions�, Inc. 804-346-5300 x102 877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x102 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reg Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:14 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews News > I think SPEWS is working just great... Look at what you guys had to do... > Covad had to actually do something other than ignore the abuse complaints > about their spam spewing customers (which they have many of).. plus you > cannot , I repeat cannot contact the SPEWS admins, read the FAQ on their > Website ( www.spews.org )... Again we are dealing with ignorant ( not rude) > people who cannot be bothered to read documentation or FAQ's but would > rather rant and rave at the injustice and unfairness of it all and pull the > old poor me routine instead of addressing and resolving the problem. > > Best Regards > Reg Simon > Tech Support > Campana Systems Inc > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-owner@;declude.com]On Behalf Of Webmaster - > GlobalWeb.net > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 9:22 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews News > > > we had a run-in with SPEWS last month; a customer of ours uses DSL supplied > by COVAD with an 8-IP block; SPEWS blocked the entire class-C due to > another complaints about another organization with another 8-block on that > same class-C - > > requests to SPEWS were on no use - > > It took me calling covad to get involved before it was taken care of - > another case of the innocent guys falling victim to trigger happy soles.... > > > Sincerely, > > Randy Armbrecht > Global Web Solutions�, Inc. > 804-346-5300 x102 > 877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x102 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:46 AM > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews News > > > > FWIW, > > We fell victim to SPEWS in the same way. We were lucky to have an ISP > > that was working hard on the problem and assigned us an additional /28 > > network. > > We assigned that to another interface on our firewall and are relaying > > outbound email from that network. > > > > The author of this article is correct: "Trying to deal with the spews > > admins is equivalent to dealing with children - conversations are > > circular and not very productive." > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-owner@;declude.com] On Behalf Of Tom > > > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:44 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews News > > > > > > > > > The following article about Spews is from the Langa List. > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Fred, I saw your article regarding SpamCop and wanted to let > > > you and your readers know about a "service" that is even worse > > > called Spews. Spews doesn't blacklist sites, it blacklists > > > entire ip ranges as a way to force domain owners, most of whom > > > are completely innocent but happen to be within the range of > > > the IP block, to pressure their ISP or service provider to > > > shutdown the supposed offending spammer. It is my opinion that > > > Spews (which is completely unreachable if you wish to object > > > to your being included in an IP range), is actually run by > > > spammers - as their actions are so heavy handed that they > > > cause most users to end up dropping the use of RBLs, and as a > > > consequence more spam ends up getting through to people's > > > inboxes. More information about my experience is available at > > > http://www.allpm.com/article.php?sid=261&mode=&order=0&thold=0 > > > Regards, Michael Lines > > > > > > > --- > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by F-Proto Virus Scanner] > > > > --- > > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- > > [Scanned for viruses by www.GlobalWeb.net using Declude/F-Prot AV] > > > > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". 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