>the price for Enterprise is
>set by where Enterprise sits in the market, priced Oracle
>or Rational Rose recently? or on a more proletairat level a copy of Adobe
>Capture?,

Which is why I have survived without any of those.

Let me put it all in perspective for you - I have no pointy-haired boss to 
convince on this. I will have to find 5 and a half thousand dollars to get 
into the latest version.

No HP, no trade-in, no nothing. That money will have to come out of my bank 
account and the stuff in there has  already been claimed by the Govt., my 
kids (still studying in Poly), my wife (also studying in Poly), and my 
little junior orchard which I am building up to be my retirement fund in 
another 10 years or so, my wife's new car (now clocked over 350,000 km and 
can no longer cut it), and I do have a new (cheap second hand) motorbike 
yet to be purchased as my only ever purchase that will finally be for ME.

Although I have had steady contract work in Tauranga for the last 18 
months, I never know when that will end (so far, it has ended at the end of 
the week about 6 or 7 times now before being extended for unknown days). 
Because I'm in a provincial city, I'm getting nowhere near the dollars 
others have bandied and if I raise my price then I'll no longer be able to 
be afforded by those who employ me. That means that I'll have to travel and 
live weekdays in Auckland or Wellington. Done that too many years, sorry.

And now I'm being told that every 18 months or so I'll have to find out of 
my own pocket another 5 and a half thousand dollars!

>As far as the Web Dev whine goes there
>are so many free development tools I really can't see that Borland has a
>responsibility to make our lives easier by allowing us
>to exist using one tool for everything

This one gets me. I've been doing web development since the early 90's, 
some of my sites are doing exceptionally well, one in particular contains 
around 25 megs of information, over 2 gigs of throughput and 400,000 hits 
(75,000 page hits) per month, yet only in the last year am I finally 
actually MAKING anything out of web development due to the extra abilities 
that Delphi can give.

Delphi allows me to publish live data from the main database to the web for 
my customers. If I couldn't use Delphi then they would have their choice of 
a myriad of spotty faced kids with a copy of FrontPage and VB and printed 
cards proclaiming to be web developers.

I've done the corporate bit for many years, been a pointy-haired boss 
myself, enjoyed it, just don't like living in cities. Here in the 
provincials, I bill my time out to people who have to find money themselves 
to pay me - again no pointy-haired boss. My advantage against the kids with 
Fontpage and VB is Delphi.

Take a look at the differences between Delphi Pro and Enterprise. 
Everything new, everything that gives Delphi an advantage has been placed 
in the Enterprise version. Borland don't want people like me who have been 
building applications with their product since the day they opened, they 
want the corporates.

What makes a corporate site? Lets say 4 developers - been there, doing that 
now. The main project I'm on here has had four developers (currently 3 + 
one more to start part time). The "corporate" doesn't own a single copy of 
Delphi and wouldn't know the difference. The contract developers each are 
working with their own licence. Each of us is damn sure to be legal and 
none will be upgrading at that price and I'm damn sure that alternative 
development tools will be discussed between us over the following weeks.

How about this Borland. Create the Enterprise version. Stick in everything 
that'll help with multi-programmer large scale development like version 
control, add in a 20 user licence for Interbase, add in a three to five 
user licence for Delphi and sell it off for 10 or 15 or even 20K, but leave 
the Pro version with enough ability so that the REAL PRO's out there can 
use it.

It's the REAL PRO's that convinces the Corporates to buy, not the 
pointy-haired bosses. Price out the REAL PRO's and your sales will disappear.

Steve Peacocke

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