At 09:00 am 10.05.01 +1200, you wrote:
>At NZ$5500 pa the MSDN Universal subscription seems to represent
>comparitively remarkable value for money.
>
>It includes 5 user licenses of the Enterprise versions of all the MS
>development tools (?), all the Windows platforms, the MSDN library, Office,
>Backoffice (including all editions of SQL Server).  The international
>edition includes foreign language versions of these where applicable, and
>update CDs arrive on monthly as new versions become available.

It's interesting isn't it. Delphi is considered in corporates as a weird 
language - excellent by all reports, but weird. Often too weird to consider 
unless there is a contract Pro around to do some selling.

How many times have I heard IT managers and IS Directors stating that they 
can deliver real state of the art, object oriented, multi-tier, corporate 
critical applications with a "real Language" like Microsoft Access or 
Microsoft Visual Basic. I have seen entire in-house development structures 
for corporates based on Microsoft Access - Hell, I've been to a few 
Microsoft mornings where they talk new buzzwords sprinkled with the words 
"VB" or "Access" and all the corporate people go away glassy eyed.

If Borland doesn't want my business, I'm certain Microsoft does.

Reality: I'm dreading going back to see a particular client in the morning 
who I convinced to purchase Delphi 5 for their junior programmer I'm 
training up. Convincing the guy to part with many thousands to get into 
Delphi 5 was like pulling teeth, I was there when he heard the price and he 
took a lot of convincing.

If he has heard about the $5.5K to upgrade - something he will want to do 
as his junior and I support a lot of his web developed apps and Delphi 6 
gives a large enhancement to that - If he's heard about the upgrade prices, 
my name in this town is going to be something not worth repeating.

Either Borland has to do something and double quick, or it looses NZ 
developers in droves. Most will probably be like myself and will still 
carry on for a few years with their older versions on current developments, 
but any new work will be done with some other tool.

I have already begun the search for that tool - probably Microsoft owned.

BTW: This discussion used to be read by Borland Aus. and topical issues 
like this one were reported back to the States. Is this still the case? 
otherwise, it's about time one of us sent all these emails to Borland USA.

Steve

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