Last time when Delphi 5 was released, I could not justify going to the
Enterprise version... so we went with the Pro version (4 licenses) and
purchased the ADO add-on and a few other third party tools...
That has worked fine for us... so the main question is do you (or I !!) need
the Enterprise version or will the Pro version do. If you look at the
product matrix, for sure all (or most) of the 'New' features are in the
Enterprise version and not the Pro.
Now I don't yet know what all these 'New' things really are... maybe they
are definitely needed by the greater majority (in which case they shouldn't
be in the 'Enterprise' version), maybe they can be purchased separately,
maybe there are cheaper and better third party add-ons that can be used with
the Pro version that will do the same thing (but cheaper)... lots of
maybes...
And a final maybe... maybe we just need to wait for a couple of weeks and
see how things settle down, see if more info becomes available as to what
really is 'New' and what really is in the Enterprise version and available
in no other way...
I am sure hoping that we don't need to purchase the Enterprise version...
that is one thing I can say!
Also, an interesting side note to do with market share or future market
share... Down here in little old Hamilton, a friend of mine was keen to go
to a Delphi course at Tech... the course ended up been cancelled due to not
enough interest/registrations, so they decided to do a Java course
instead... that course ended up been jam-packed... It doesn't seem like a
good sign if there are hardly any people wanting to learn Delphi, and those
that do, can't (well... not at a Tech course in Hamilton anyway...)
Regards
Colin
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Steve Peacocke
Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2001 9:38 pm
To: Multiple recipients of list delphi
Subject: RE: [DUG]: OK I've heard enough
At 09:00 am 10.05.01 +1200, you wrote:
>At NZ$5500 pa the MSDN Universal subscription seems to represent
>comparitively remarkable value for money.
>
>It includes 5 user licenses of the Enterprise versions of all the MS
>development tools (?), all the Windows platforms, the MSDN library, Office,
>Backoffice (including all editions of SQL Server). The international
>edition includes foreign language versions of these where applicable, and
>update CDs arrive on monthly as new versions become available.
It's interesting isn't it. Delphi is considered in corporates as a weird
language - excellent by all reports, but weird. Often too weird to consider
unless there is a contract Pro around to do some selling.
How many times have I heard IT managers and IS Directors stating that they
can deliver real state of the art, object oriented, multi-tier, corporate
critical applications with a "real Language" like Microsoft Access or
Microsoft Visual Basic. I have seen entire in-house development structures
for corporates based on Microsoft Access - Hell, I've been to a few
Microsoft mornings where they talk new buzzwords sprinkled with the words
"VB" or "Access" and all the corporate people go away glassy eyed.
If Borland doesn't want my business, I'm certain Microsoft does.
Reality: I'm dreading going back to see a particular client in the morning
who I convinced to purchase Delphi 5 for their junior programmer I'm
training up. Convincing the guy to part with many thousands to get into
Delphi 5 was like pulling teeth, I was there when he heard the price and he
took a lot of convincing.
If he has heard about the $5.5K to upgrade - something he will want to do
as his junior and I support a lot of his web developed apps and Delphi 6
gives a large enhancement to that - If he's heard about the upgrade prices,
my name in this town is going to be something not worth repeating.
Either Borland has to do something and double quick, or it looses NZ
developers in droves. Most will probably be like myself and will still
carry on for a few years with their older versions on current developments,
but any new work will be done with some other tool.
I have already begun the search for that tool - probably Microsoft owned.
BTW: This discussion used to be read by Borland Aus. and topical issues
like this one were reported back to the States. Is this still the case?
otherwise, it's about time one of us sent all these emails to Borland USA.
Steve
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