As someone who has no affiliation with Red Hat (I don't work for them and I
am not a customer) I do get pretty tired of all the accusations as well and
getting lumped into having an agenda.
I am a heavy 5.x user and I have contributed to the project quite a bit the
past couple of years. My motivation for wanting Artemis to succeed is
purely a technical one. I have evaluated both brokers and Artemis is not
perfect but it has a good architecture and in my opinion is a good
foundation for building the best broker possible. Others can disagree and
that is fine but that is my reasoning.
Martyn brings up a point that I have avoided bringing up until now but I
will bring it up because I'm pretty tired of all of the accusations about
company agendas. I think it's pretty obvious from anyone paying attention
to see that the people who are voting -1 are the same people who are not
involved in the community at all. Jeff and Hadrian and company...when's
the last time you guys actually contributed anything to the project?
Answered a user question? Fixed a bug? Joined in on a technical
discussion? Did a release? Fixed a CVE? The only time you guys show up is
on threads like this.
To all the people who voted -1 because you don't think that Artemis is
ready to become ActiveMQ 6 because of lack of migration and features...how
about you guys actually help contribute and make it a reality instead of
making accusations?
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 6:26 AM, Martyn Taylor <mtay...@redhat.com> wrote:
> To be quite frank, I'm offended by some of the accusations made in this
> thread.
>
> After the last round of accusations of Red Hat are pushing through their
> own agenda, I'm sad to see it happening again. I continue to use my Red
> Hat email address in public discussions, in my PR requests and review.
> I've nothing to hide nor am I ashamed to be employed by a company like Red
> Hat. My legions lie with ActiveMQ and making the project and community a
> better place. I've put so much personal and emotional effort into this
> project. To have my votes and opinions abrogated just because I work for a
> certain company I find shocking and not at all democratic.
>
> Actually, looking back through this vote thread to the people who voted +1,
> who were accused of pushing an alternate agenda are actually the same
> people who I see involved in the community on a day to day basis. The same
> people fixing bugs, answering user questions and doing releases. And
> they're not all employed by the same company.
>
> If people want to vote -1 to this, fair enough you're entitled to your vote
> and I have no issue. But, all this talk about companies pushing an agenda,
> seems to me to be a bit of a guise to detract away from the actual subject
> in hand. TBH, I am sick of hearing about it.
>
> I respect the result of the vote.
>
> I am -1 on the idea of making Artemis TLP.
> I am +1 on Bruce's suggestion on creating a Roadmap. I think this is
> really what we need right now.
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 3:41 AM, Michael André Pearce <
> michael.andre.pea...@me.com> wrote:
>
> > On the website front I’m happy to stick my hand up, giving it an overhaul
> > and design inline with the new logo.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On 6 Dec 2017, at 22:57, Bruce Snyder <bruce.sny...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I agree that the website needs an overhaul and I'm interested to take
> on
> > > this task. I also agree that Artemis should somehow be made more
> > prominent
> > > on the website, but how to do this is more debatable. I will start a
> > > separate discussion around this.
> > >
> > > More discussions on the dev list is *always* a good thing.
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Clebert Suconic <
> > clebert.suco...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ok... so, consider this a CANCEL on this vote...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I think we have things settled.. and some positive factors from this
> > >> thread:
> > >>
> > >> - All agreed to make Artemis more prominent on the website.
> > >> - Refactor the website... like.. now... with Artemis being brought
> > >> forward.. (the website needs a facelift regardless)
> > >> ... any volunteers here?
> > >> ... we will need a discuss here... Honestly I don't like the
> confluent
> > >> wiki.
> > >> - Have more discussions on the dev list
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > perl -e 'print
> > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> );'
> > >
> > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
> > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> >
>
