Why? You going to verify my affiliation or something? I don't have anything to prove to you. As Tim said in another thread you don't intimidate me either.
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 8:38 AM, jgenender <jgenen...@apache.org> wrote: > Oh let’s not go there Chris :-). You won’t like the answers. > > Who are you affiliated with, Chris? > > > christopher.l.shannon wrote > > As someone who has no affiliation with Red Hat (I don't work for them and > > I > > am not a customer) I do get pretty tired of all the accusations as well > > and > > getting lumped into having an agenda. > > > > I am a heavy 5.x user and I have contributed to the project quite a bit > > the > > past couple of years. My motivation for wanting Artemis to succeed is > > purely a technical one. I have evaluated both brokers and Artemis is not > > perfect but it has a good architecture and in my opinion is a good > > foundation for building the best broker possible. Others can disagree > and > > that is fine but that is my reasoning. > > > > Martyn brings up a point that I have avoided bringing up until now but I > > will bring it up because I'm pretty tired of all of the accusations about > > company agendas. I think it's pretty obvious from anyone paying > attention > > to see that the people who are voting -1 are the same people who are not > > involved in the community at all. Jeff and Hadrian and company...when's > > the last time you guys actually contributed anything to the project? > > Answered a user question? Fixed a bug? Joined in on a technical > > discussion? Did a release? Fixed a CVE? The only time you guys show up > is > > on threads like this. > > > > To all the people who voted -1 because you don't think that Artemis is > > ready to become ActiveMQ 6 because of lack of migration and > features...how > > about you guys actually help contribute and make it a reality instead of > > making accusations? > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 6:26 AM, Martyn Taylor < > > > mtaylor@ > > > > wrote: > > > >> To be quite frank, I'm offended by some of the accusations made in this > >> thread. > >> > >> After the last round of accusations of Red Hat are pushing through their > >> own agenda, I'm sad to see it happening again. I continue to use my Red > >> Hat email address in public discussions, in my PR requests and review. > >> I've nothing to hide nor am I ashamed to be employed by a company like > >> Red > >> Hat. My legions lie with ActiveMQ and making the project and community > a > >> better place. I've put so much personal and emotional effort into this > >> project. To have my votes and opinions abrogated just because I work > for > >> a > >> certain company I find shocking and not at all democratic. > >> > >> Actually, looking back through this vote thread to the people who voted > >> +1, > >> who were accused of pushing an alternate agenda are actually the same > >> people who I see involved in the community on a day to day basis. The > >> same > >> people fixing bugs, answering user questions and doing releases. And > >> they're not all employed by the same company. > >> > >> If people want to vote -1 to this, fair enough you're entitled to your > >> vote > >> and I have no issue. But, all this talk about companies pushing an > >> agenda, > >> seems to me to be a bit of a guise to detract away from the actual > >> subject > >> in hand. TBH, I am sick of hearing about it. > >> > >> I respect the result of the vote. > >> > >> I am -1 on the idea of making Artemis TLP. > >> I am +1 on Bruce's suggestion on creating a Roadmap. I think this is > >> really what we need right now. > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 3:41 AM, Michael André Pearce < > >> > > > michael.andre.pearce@ > > >> wrote: > >> > >> > On the website front I’m happy to stick my hand up, giving it an > >> overhaul > >> > and design inline with the new logo. > >> > > >> > Mike > >> > > >> > Sent from my iPhone > >> > > >> > > On 6 Dec 2017, at 22:57, Bruce Snyder < > > > bruce.snyder@ > > > > wrote: > >> > > > >> > > I agree that the website needs an overhaul and I'm interested to > take > >> on > >> > > this task. I also agree that Artemis should somehow be made more > >> > prominent > >> > > on the website, but how to do this is more debatable. I will start a > >> > > separate discussion around this. > >> > > > >> > > More discussions on the dev list is *always* a good thing. > >> > > > >> > > Bruce > >> > > > >> > > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Clebert Suconic < > >> > > > > clebert.suconic@ > > >> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> Ok... so, consider this a CANCEL on this vote... > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> I think we have things settled.. and some positive factors from > this > >> > >> thread: > >> > >> > >> > >> - All agreed to make Artemis more prominent on the website. > >> > >> - Refactor the website... like.. now... with Artemis being brought > >> > >> forward.. (the website needs a facelift regardless) > >> > >> ... any volunteers here? > >> > >> ... we will need a discuss here... Honestly I don't like the > >> confluent > >> > >> wiki. > >> > >> - Have more discussions on the dev list > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > perl -e 'print > >> > > > >> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6% > I;\"YC;VT*" > > > );' > >> > > > >> > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ > >> > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/> > >> > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder > >> > > >> > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/ActiveMQ-Dev- > f2368404.html >