Thank you Ryan for your guidance throughout my first contribution, Oscar for your help driving the vote, and everyone for your kind words, feedback, and votes! :D This was so much fun to work on and I'm so grateful for the opportunity to help the community in this regard :)
Now for the next steps! If we're unsure about the current font chosen (PT Mono Bold) I have 3 other fonts I shortlisted when creating the initial drafts of the designs that we can compare to the existing one. If we'd like to go this route, I can upload the alternative font versions to the AVRO-3554 JIRA issue and we can do one more quick vote for the final font. However, if we're happy with the current font chosen for the logo we can jump right into creating the versions to upload to the Apache Project Logos website! On the Apache Project Logos page, it looks like it's the convention to upload two PNG versions (a 1200 x ___ size, and a 3600 x ___ size), a PDF version, and an SVG version, so I'll start by creating all those versions of V9.2 logo design. It also looks like a lot of projects upload a square version of the design (the icon on top of the logo text; ex. Version 2 of Apache Airflow), so I can create a square layout for the logo to go along with the banner version (icon beside the logo text) that we already have. Some projects also upload a version that can be used on dark backgrounds (ex. Version 2 of Apache Calcite) so if we'd also like to do that as well I'm more than happy to make some dark mode versions too! Finally, some projects upload their logo icons on their own without any text (ex. Version 3 of Apache Airflow), and I can also do that if we'd like. Please let me know your thoughts, in the meantime, I'll start getting to work on either creating the alternate font options for another vote or the final format versions :D All my best, Emma On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 10:55 AM Ryan Skraba <r...@skraba.com> wrote: > Thanks so much Emma for the contribution and Oscar for driving the > vote! :D This has been a fun thing to do -- I would love to see the > pigeon immortalized someplace! Maybe on a website page for credits > and contributors? > > Emma, what do you think we need to finalize the logo? I'm starting a > list of places that need to be updated, starting at > https://www.apache.org/logos/ ! > > All my best, Ryan > > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 10:04 AM Oscar Westra van Holthe - Kind > <os...@westravanholthe.nl> wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > The vote should have ended yesterday, but somehow we managed to more than > > double the number of votes and still get the same outcome. The current > > tally (all votes) is 5 votes for each option. > > > > So we're (again) at a tie. > > > > To force a conclusion, I'd like to resort to some arbitrary but hopefully > > acceptable way to break the tie. By removing my own vote we'll get a > simple > > majority for one of the options (the same that failed to reach a +2 > > majority the previous round). > > > > This then brings the final tally to: > > > > - 5 votes for V9.2 (the plane) > > - 4 votes for V3.1 (the pigeon) > > > > Which means that the winner is: *V9.2* (the plane) > > > > Thank you all for voting! > > > > > > Kind regards, > > Oscar > > > > > > On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 at 13:51, Fokko Driesprong <fo...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > Thanks for the explanation, Emma! > > > > > > My vote still goes to 9.2 > > > > > > Cheers, Fokko > > > > > > Op ma 23 okt 2023 om 07:39 schreef Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > v9.2 for me. I definitely prefer the blue color and I really don’t > get > > > > the pigeon. > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 23, 2023, at 5:04 AM, Oscar Westra van Holthe - Kind < > > > > os...@westravanholthe.nl> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > TL;DR: if you haven't voted yet, please do so! > > > > > > > > > > As Emma has shown that an upwards angle change for V9.2 doesn't > work, I > > > > > think we should drop that version from the vote. > > > > > > > > > > This means, with the (binding) votes so far, that the result is a > tie: > > > > > > > > > > - V9.2: 2 votes > > > > > - V3.1: 2 votes > > > > > > > > > > Note: not everyone who voted the first round has voted again. > > > > > > > > > > *So if you have an opinion on the Avro logo, please vote!* > > > > > > > > > > On a side note: when I count all votes, there is no tie (there's an > > > extra > > > > > vote for v3.1). So if there are no additional votes, we can still > have > > > a > > > > > result. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > Oscar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 at 16:42, Emma K <emma.a.kel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Oops! I realized there is a typo in my last message. I wrote that > V3.2 > > > > is a > > > > >> finalist (the pigeon without the outlines) instead of V3.1 as a > > > finalist > > > > >> (the pigeon with the outlines), my mistake! > > > > >> The finalists are V9.2 (or V11.2 if you prefer upwards) and V3.1 > > > > >> Apologies for the confusion! > > > > >> > > > > >> All the best, > > > > >> Emma > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 9:46 AM Niels Basjes <ni...@basjes.nl> > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> Hi, > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I had a good look at the logos and the pigeon version (v3.2 > without > > > the > > > > >>> line around it) has my preference. > > > > >>> That said I'm totally fine if we use the v9.2 which also looks > > > awesome. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Niels > > > > >>> > > > > >>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 2:37 PM Ryan Skraba <r...@skraba.com> > wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> All of this is amazing -- it's really awesome for me to hear > your > > > > >>>> thought processes and arguments for the design. I think we're > > > pretty > > > > >>>> lucky to have this insight! My apologies for the delay, I just > got > > > > >>>> back from a vacation following the conference :D > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> I wish I had better expressed the positive sentiment we got for > the > > > > >>>> designs when I was showing them off in person. I passed along > the > > > > >>>> suggestions because they were interesting, but definitely NOT > > > > >>>> presented as mandatory. There will be ZERO hard feelings if we > make > > > > >>>> our own decision! > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> I didn't say it in the first mail, but my subjective opinion is > to > > > > >>>> *disagree* with changing the airplane angle upwards. Paper > > > airplanes > > > > >>>> that travel well *coast* easily (like Avro data). > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> I maintain my v9.2 vote! > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 6:59 AM David M. Carr < > da...@carrclan.us> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Great work on these, Emma. My preference is for V3.2. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 2:37 PM Emma K < > emma.a.kel...@gmail.com> > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Hi all, > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> I uploaded some new images to the Jira issue here < > > > > >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AVRO-3554> to visually > > > > >> capture > > > > >>>> the > > > > >>>>>> suggestions for adjusting the upward angle design. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> I wanted to show what it looks like if the upward angle of the > > > > >> plane > > > > >>>> logo > > > > >>>>>> is changed so that the underside is visible. The problem is > that > > > > >> the > > > > >>>> blobby > > > > >>>>>> bits of the tail block the underside of the plane when > adjusted to > > > > >>>> this new > > > > >>>>>> angle and make the design less clean and even less obvious as > to > > > > >> what > > > > >>>> the > > > > >>>>>> icon is, which is why in the original upward design V11.2 I > didn't > > > > >>> add > > > > >>>> any > > > > >>>>>> underside and instead opted for a cleaner but more abstract > > > > >>>> representation > > > > >>>>>> of the plane icon. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> I also wanted to show what it looks like if I just rotate the > V9.2 > > > > >>>> design > > > > >>>>>> to an upward angle with no other changes. This also doesn't > work, > > > > >>>> because > > > > >>>>>> the flow of the blobs isn't right for this orientation and the > > > > >>>> underside of > > > > >>>>>> the plane isn't right for this angle. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> To clarify a bit on what I wrote previously, I said that it > was > > > > >> valid > > > > >>>> and > > > > >>>>>> made sense that the marketing booth preferred the upward-angle > > > > >>> design. > > > > >>>> When > > > > >>>>>> I said that, I did not mean to suggest that the upward angle > was > > > > >>> better > > > > >>>>>> than the other designs, what I meant to do was just validate > that > > > > >> it > > > > >>>> was > > > > >>>>>> okay for them to have that preference! The thing that's hard > about > > > > >>>> design > > > > >>>>>> is that it's so subjective and everyone will have their own > unique > > > > >>>> opinions > > > > >>>>>> on what looks better. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> But again, I want to make sure that the logo is something > that the > > > > >>>> *Avro > > > > >>>>>> community* loves and agrees upon! I'm worried that the passing > > > > >>>> subjective > > > > >>>>>> preference of the marketing and publicity office at the > Community > > > > >>> Over > > > > >>>> Code > > > > >>>>>> conference is casting its own 'shadow vote' here which is > taking > > > > >> away > > > > >>>> from > > > > >>>>>> the gut feelings of the Avro community as a whole. I would > just > > > > >> like > > > > >>> to > > > > >>>>>> encourage everyone to pick the design they like best in the > final > > > > >>> vote, > > > > >>>>>> because at the end of the day, the logo that's chosen will > > > > >> ultimately > > > > >>>> be > > > > >>>>>> what represents Avro the project, and you as the > contributors, not > > > > >>> the > > > > >>>>>> marketing and publicity office. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> To conclude, I don't think I'll be doing any additional > revisions > > > > >> of > > > > >>>> the > > > > >>>>>> icons themselves in the future, so the options for the logos > will > > > > >> be > > > > >>>> V9.2 > > > > >>>>>> (or V.11.2 if you want an upward angle) and V3.2. I will be > > > > >> uploading > > > > >>>> some > > > > >>>>>> revisions for the font used in the final design (once a > winner is > > > > >>>> chosen) > > > > >>>>>> to see if there is a better alternative on that front, but > > > > >> otherwise, > > > > >>>> the > > > > >>>>>> icon designs themselves will remain the same. Thanks again > for all > > > > >>> your > > > > >>>>>> patience and feedback throughout the process! > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> All my best, > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Emma > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 5:22 AM Fokko Driesprong < > > > fo...@apache.org > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Great work again! > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Based on what I was taught when studying graphic design, > icons > > > > >>> for > > > > >>>>>> logos > > > > >>>>>>>> should be memorable and have the simplest possible design to > > > > >>>> convey the > > > > >>>>>>>> desired image > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks for the background information Emma, this makes a lot > of > > > > >>>> sense to > > > > >>>>>>> me. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> This is, I believe, because the angle of V11.2 hides the > > > > >> underside: > > > > >>>> this > > > > >>>>>>>> makes the plane look incomplete. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> I agree, it is not obvious that it is a paper plane (which I > like > > > > >>> as > > > > >>>> a > > > > >>>>>>> reference, because of childhood :) Both the pigeon and the > paper > > > > >>>> plane > > > > >>>>>> are > > > > >>>>>>> awesome. Maybe the plane is a bit more timeless, while the > pigeon > > > > >>>> might > > > > >>>>>>> bring up IP over Avian Carriers > > > > >>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers>. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> I'll vote for V9.2 pointing slightly upwards as well. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Kind regards, > > > > >>>>>>> Fokko > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Op di 17 okt 2023 om 14:54 schreef Oscar Westra van Holthe - > > > > >> Kind < > > > > >>>>>>> opw...@apache.org>: > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> The results yesterday show that V9.2 is perceived as better > > > > >> than > > > > >>>> V11.2, > > > > >>>>>>>> despite being angled downward. This is, I believe, because > the > > > > >>>> angle of > > > > >>>>>>>> V11.2 hides the underside: this makes the plane look > > > > >> incomplete. > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> My vote is for V9.2 if changed to fly upward, V3.1 > otherwise. > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Kind regards, > > > > >>>>>>>> Oscar > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 at 21:46, Emma K < > emma.a.kel...@gmail.com> > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thank you for your kind words throughout the process and > > > > >> vote! > > > > >>> I > > > > >>>>>> wanted > > > > >>>>>>>> to > > > > >>>>>>>>> refrain from jumping in earlier lest I accidentally > > > > >> influenced > > > > >>>> the > > > > >>>>>>>> initial > > > > >>>>>>>>> vote in any way! > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Just wanted to hop in now and give my thoughts on the > > > > >>> suggestions > > > > >>>>>> Ryan > > > > >>>>>>>>> received at the Community Over Code conference and Oscar's > > > > >>>> suggestion > > > > >>>>>>> of > > > > >>>>>>>>> another possible upwards variant. > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> I'll start with Oscar's suggestion first, which also ties > > > > >> into > > > > >>>> the > > > > >>>>>>> first > > > > >>>>>>>>> point of advice Ryan received from the marketing and > > > > >> publicity > > > > >>>>>> office. > > > > >>>>>>> If > > > > >>>>>>>>> we'd like to follow ASF's marketing team's intuition that > the > > > > >>>> upward > > > > >>>>>>>> design > > > > >>>>>>>>> of 11.2 is better than the downward design of 9.2 I think > > > > >>> that's > > > > >>>>>> valid > > > > >>>>>>>> and > > > > >>>>>>>>> makes sense! If this is the case, then I would suggest we > use > > > > >>> the > > > > >>>>>> 11.2 > > > > >>>>>>>>> design rather than the 9.2 design, and I can make some > slight > > > > >>>>>>> adjustments > > > > >>>>>>>>> to the angle of the plane as we see fit. I'll add that I > am a > > > > >>>> little > > > > >>>>>>> more > > > > >>>>>>>>> hesitant about this approach only because the 11.2 design > did > > > > >>> not > > > > >>>>>> beat > > > > >>>>>>>> out > > > > >>>>>>>>> or tie with the votes of design 9.2 in the first round of > > > > >>>> voting, and > > > > >>>>>>>>> ultimately I would like the final logo to be something that > > > > >> the > > > > >>>>>>> community > > > > >>>>>>>>> as a whole loves and agrees upon! > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> The next suggestion Ryan received was based on the PT Mono > > > > >> font > > > > >>>>>> being a > > > > >>>>>>>>> little strange for the word 'Avro' as the r is the only > > > > >> serifed > > > > >>>>>> letter. > > > > >>>>>>>>> This is something I didn't notice before but they are > right! > > > > >> I > > > > >>>>>> actually > > > > >>>>>>>>> already have five other fonts on the backburner that I > tried > > > > >>>> when I > > > > >>>>>> was > > > > >>>>>>>>> drafting the original design versions but I personally > liked > > > > >>> the > > > > >>>> PT > > > > >>>>>>> Mono > > > > >>>>>>>>> font the best so gave that as the only option (which in > > > > >>> hindsight > > > > >>>>>> might > > > > >>>>>>>> not > > > > >>>>>>>>> have been the best choice). What I can do is once the final > > > > >>> icon > > > > >>>> is > > > > >>>>>>>> chosen > > > > >>>>>>>>> as the winner (either the plane or the pigeon) I can draft > > > > >> up a > > > > >>>> few > > > > >>>>>>> more > > > > >>>>>>>>> versions with the alternate font choices and we can decide > if > > > > >>>> one of > > > > >>>>>>> the > > > > >>>>>>>>> other fonts will work better in the long run. > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Finally, in terms of the last suggestion from the marketing > > > > >> and > > > > >>>>>>> publicity > > > > >>>>>>>>> office of having the word Avro in the plane's dark blue, I > > > > >> have > > > > >>>> to > > > > >>>>>>>>> respectfully disagree with this assessment. The area of > dark > > > > >>>> blue in > > > > >>>>>>> the > > > > >>>>>>>>> plane icons is so small that even at large sizes it would > be > > > > >>>>>> difficult > > > > >>>>>>> to > > > > >>>>>>>>> read 'Avro' if it was there, and at small sizes, it would > be > > > > >>>>>> impossible > > > > >>>>>>>> to > > > > >>>>>>>>> parse. Based on what I was taught when studying graphic > > > > >> design, > > > > >>>> icons > > > > >>>>>>> for > > > > >>>>>>>>> logos should be memorable and have the simplest possible > > > > >> design > > > > >>>> to > > > > >>>>>>> convey > > > > >>>>>>>>> the desired image. As an example of this, think of Apple's > > > > >>> logo, > > > > >>>>>> which > > > > >>>>>>>> is a > > > > >>>>>>>>> simplistic apple icon with a chunk missing. I would posit > > > > >> that > > > > >>> if > > > > >>>>>> Apple > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote 'Apple' on their icon, it wouldn't be nearly as > > > > >>> effective. > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> That's my 2¢ anyways! I'm happy to make more adjustments to > > > > >> the > > > > >>>> fonts > > > > >>>>>>> and > > > > >>>>>>>>> the angles of the icons as we see fit, and I'm so excited > to > > > > >>> see > > > > >>>>>> which > > > > >>>>>>>>> design will be the final winner in the end! :D > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> All my best, > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Emma > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 12:33 PM Oscar Westra van Holthe - > > > > >>> Kind < > > > > >>>>>>>>> os...@westravanholthe.nl> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> The results are in: with 6 binding votes (all cast within > 6 > > > > >>>> hours), > > > > >>>>>>> and > > > > >>>>>>>>> no > > > > >>>>>>>>>> non-binding votes, it's a near-tie between V9.2 and V3.1. > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> These are the votes: > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - V9.2: 3 votes > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - V10.2: 1 vote > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - V11.2: 0 votes > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - V3.1: 2 votes (I changed the vote for V6.1, as the > > > > >> V3.1 > > > > >>>>>> variant > > > > >>>>>>>> was > > > > >>>>>>>>>> part of the vote) > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> What's next: one week to vote by simple majority between > > > > >> V9.2 > > > > >>>> and > > > > >>>>>>> V3.1. > > > > >>>>>>>>>> (given our quick votes last time, it's probably more than > > > > >>>> enough) > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Then, if we choose for V9.2, perhaps Emma can also create > a > > > > >>>> good > > > > >>>>>>>> version > > > > >>>>>>>>>> flying > > > > >>>>>>>>>> slightly upward > > > > >>>>>>>>>> < > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > https://clipart-library.com/newhp/31-316437_transparent-airplane-clipart-paper-airplane-clipart-png-png.png > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> instead > > > > >>>>>>>>>> of steeply like V11.2. I think we can leave it up to her > > > > >> good > > > > >>>>>>> judgement > > > > >>>>>>>>> to > > > > >>>>>>>>>> determine if that's really an improvement. > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> So, which do you like more: the plane V9.2, or the pigeon > > > > >>> V3.1? > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Kind regards, > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Oscar > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 22:54, Ryan Skraba <r...@skraba.com > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hello! I don't want to derail the conversation or vote, > > > > >> but > > > > >>>> I had > > > > >>>>>>> the > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> opportunity to attend the marketing and publicity office > > > > >>>> hours > > > > >>>>>>> during > > > > >>>>>>>>> the > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> community over Code conference. They had some pretty > > > > >>> specific > > > > >>>>>>>>> suggestions > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> (but not requirements of course). I'm on my phone but I > > > > >>> just > > > > >>>> want > > > > >>>>>>> to > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> capture them here! > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. Plane going up is better than down! > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. PT Mono is peculiar for our specific word because the > > > > >> r > > > > >>>> has > > > > >>>>>>> serifs > > > > >>>>>>>>> and > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the others don't. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. If we use the arrow, it would look great to have the > > > > >>> word > > > > >>>> Avro > > > > >>>>>>> in > > > > >>>>>>>>> the > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> plane's dark blue! > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> It was a neat conversation and they said some really nice > > > > >>>> things > > > > >>>>>>>> about > > > > >>>>>>>>>> the > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> initiative! > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> If we do anything about 2 or 3, we can talk about any > > > > >>>> adjustments > > > > >>>>>>>> after > > > > >>>>>>>>>> the > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> vote. To be honest, I'm 100% confident with these current > > > > >>>> logos > > > > >>>>>> and > > > > >>>>>>>>>> leaving > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> any changes to Emma's discretion! > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> All my bets Ryan > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023, 13:08 Ryan Blue <b...@tabular.io> > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> My vote is for 10.2. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 9:02 AM Oscar Westra van Holthe > > > > >> - > > > > >>>> Kind < > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> os...@westravanholthe.nl> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Since the start, I've been a fan of the pigeon. It > > > > >>> looks > > > > >>>>>> good, > > > > >>>>>>>> and > > > > >>>>>>>>>> it's > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> very distinctive. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> And it's completely different from any send icon, so > > > > >> it > > > > >>>>>> cannot > > > > >>>>>>> be > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> conflated > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> with a message protocol icon. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> My vote is for V3.1 > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards, > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Oscar > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ✉️ Oscar Westra van Holthe - Kind <opw...@apache.org > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 🌐 https://github.com/opwvhk/ > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Op ma 2 okt. 2023 16:47 schreef Ryan Skraba < > > > > >>>> r...@skraba.com > > > > >>>>>>> : > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't stop changing my mind, but I'm going to go > > > > >>> with > > > > >>>>>> V9.2 > > > > >>>>>>>> -- I > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> really like the pigeon too, but I think the paper > > > > >>> plane > > > > >>>>>> fits > > > > >>>>>>>> too > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nicely to pass up! > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent work, Emma, and thanks Oscar for calling > > > > >>> the > > > > >>>>>> vote. > > > > >>>>>>> I > > > > >>>>>>>>>> think > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your voting proposal makes sense! > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 3:59 PM Ismaël Mejía < > > > > >>>>>>> ieme...@gmail.com > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V9.2 > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like Fokko I was also not so close to the subject > > > > >>>> and it > > > > >>>>>> is > > > > >>>>>>>>> great > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see the final selection. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It looks so great. Thanks for all the work Emma > > > > >> and > > > > >>>>>>> everyone! > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ismaël > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 3:23 PM Fokko Driesprong < > > > > >>>>>>>>>> fo...@apache.org> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Oscar, > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for raising this vote. I wasn't active > > > > >> in > > > > >>>> the > > > > >>>>>>>>>> conversation > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around the new logo, but I followed it from the > > > > >>>>>> sideline. > > > > >>>>>>>> The > > > > >>>>>>>>>> new > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> logos are > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fantastic. Kudos to Emma. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really like the pigeon, especially the one > > > > >> with > > > > >>>> the > > > > >>>>>>>>> envelope! > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> My > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> vote > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goes to V6.1 if I can't vote on the alternative > > > > >>>> version > > > > >>>>>>> :) > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, Fokko > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Op ma 2 okt 2023 om 14:14 schreef Oscar Westra > > > > >>> van > > > > >>>>>>> Holthe - > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Kind > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> < > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> os...@westravanholthe.nl>: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone, > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The past month, there has been new progress > > > > >> on > > > > >>>> our > > > > >>>>>>> search > > > > >>>>>>>>>> for a > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> new > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> logo ( > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AVRO-3554 < > > > > >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AVRO-3554 > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> ). > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Emma Kellam and the feedback we've all given, > > > > >>> we > > > > >>>> can > > > > >>>>>>> now > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> proceed > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> vote on > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the matter. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These are the finalists to choose from (if > > > > >> the > > > > >>>> image > > > > >>>>>> is > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> unreadable, > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links to the comment where the finalists are > > > > >>>>>>> announced): > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AVRO-3554?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=17770969#comment-17770969 > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So now, we can vote. Because a logo lasts > > > > >>> longer > > > > >>>>>> than a > > > > >>>>>>>>>> typical > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> release, > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rules deviate from the usual rules > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting>: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - the vote lasts 2 weeks > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - to avoid confusion, please vote with the > > > > >>>> V... > > > > >>>>>>>>>> ifentifier: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> V9.2, > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> V10.2, > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V11.2, V3.1 > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - the winner is the logo with at least two > > > > >>> (2) > > > > >>>>>> votes > > > > >>>>>>>>> more > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> than > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> runner-up > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - if there is no clear winner, we'll vote > > > > >> by > > > > >>>>>> simple > > > > >>>>>>>>>> majority > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> between the > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top picks > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please vote for your preference! > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards, > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oscar > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ✉️ Oscar Westra van Holthe - Kind < > > > > >>>> opw...@apache.org > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 🌐 https://github.com/opwvhk/ > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan Blue > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Tabular > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> -- > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> ✉️ Oscar Westra van Holthe - Kind < > > > > >> os...@westravanholthe.nl> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> -- > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Oscar Westra van Holthe - Kind <os...@westravanholthe.nl> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> -- > > > > >>>>> David M. Carr > > > > >>>>> da...@carrclan.us > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> -- > > > > >>> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten, > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Niels Basjes > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > ✉️ Oscar Westra van Holthe - Kind <os...@westravanholthe.nl> > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Daniel Kulp > > > > dk...@apache.org <mailto:dk...@apache.org> > > > > Qlik - https://qlik.com <https://qlik.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ✉️ Oscar Westra van Holthe - Kind <os...@westravanholthe.nl> >