Thanks for the explanation, Emma!

My vote still goes to 9.2

Cheers, Fokko

Op ma 23 okt 2023 om 07:39 schreef Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>:

>
> v9.2 for me.   I definitely prefer the blue color and I really don’t get
> the pigeon.
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Oct 23, 2023, at 5:04 AM, Oscar Westra van Holthe - Kind <
> os...@westravanholthe.nl> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > TL;DR: if you haven't voted yet, please do so!
> >
> > As Emma has shown that an upwards angle change for V9.2 doesn't work, I
> > think we should drop that version from the vote.
> >
> > This means, with the (binding) votes so far, that the result is a tie:
> >
> >   - V9.2: 2 votes
> >   - V3.1: 2 votes
> >
> > Note: not everyone who voted the first round has voted again.
> >
> > *So if you have an opinion on the Avro logo, please vote!*
> >
> > On a side note: when I count all votes, there is no tie (there's an extra
> > vote for v3.1). So if there are no additional votes, we can still have a
> > result.
> >
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Oscar
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 at 16:42, Emma K <emma.a.kel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Oops! I realized there is a typo in my last message. I wrote that V3.2
> is a
> >> finalist (the pigeon without the outlines) instead of V3.1 as a finalist
> >> (the pigeon with the outlines), my mistake!
> >> The finalists are V9.2 (or V11.2 if you prefer upwards) and V3.1
> >> Apologies for the confusion!
> >>
> >> All the best,
> >> Emma
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 9:46 AM Niels Basjes <ni...@basjes.nl> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I had a good look at the logos and the pigeon version (v3.2 without the
> >>> line around it) has my preference.
> >>> That said I'm totally fine if we use the v9.2 which also looks awesome.
> >>>
> >>> Niels
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 2:37 PM Ryan Skraba <r...@skraba.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> All of this is amazing -- it's really awesome for me to hear your
> >>>> thought processes and arguments for the design.  I think we're pretty
> >>>> lucky to have this insight!  My apologies for the delay, I just got
> >>>> back from a vacation following the conference :D
> >>>>
> >>>> I wish I had better expressed the positive sentiment we got for the
> >>>> designs when I was showing them off in person. I passed along the
> >>>> suggestions because they were interesting, but definitely NOT
> >>>> presented as mandatory. There will be ZERO hard feelings if we make
> >>>> our own decision!
> >>>>
> >>>> I didn't say it in the first mail, but my subjective opinion is to
> >>>> *disagree* with changing the airplane angle upwards.  Paper airplanes
> >>>> that travel well *coast* easily (like Avro data).
> >>>>
> >>>> I maintain my v9.2 vote!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 6:59 AM David M. Carr <da...@carrclan.us>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Great work on these, Emma.  My preference is for V3.2.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 2:37 PM Emma K <emma.a.kel...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I uploaded some new images to the Jira issue here <
> >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AVRO-3554> to visually
> >> capture
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> suggestions for adjusting the upward angle design.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I wanted to show what it looks like if the upward angle of the
> >> plane
> >>>> logo
> >>>>>> is changed so that the underside is visible. The problem is that
> >> the
> >>>> blobby
> >>>>>> bits of the tail block the underside of the plane when adjusted to
> >>>> this new
> >>>>>> angle and make the design less clean and even less obvious as to
> >> what
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> icon is, which is why in the original upward design V11.2 I didn't
> >>> add
> >>>> any
> >>>>>> underside and instead opted for a cleaner but more abstract
> >>>> representation
> >>>>>> of the plane icon.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I also wanted to show what it looks like if I just rotate the V9.2
> >>>> design
> >>>>>> to an upward angle with no other changes. This also doesn't work,
> >>>> because
> >>>>>> the flow of the blobs isn't right for this orientation and the
> >>>> underside of
> >>>>>> the plane isn't right for this angle.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> To clarify a bit on what I wrote previously, I said that it was
> >> valid
> >>>> and
> >>>>>> made sense that the marketing booth preferred the upward-angle
> >>> design.
> >>>> When
> >>>>>> I said that, I did not mean to suggest that the upward angle was
> >>> better
> >>>>>> than the other designs, what I meant to do was just validate that
> >> it
> >>>> was
> >>>>>> okay for them to have that preference! The thing that's hard about
> >>>> design
> >>>>>> is that it's so subjective and everyone will have their own unique
> >>>> opinions
> >>>>>> on what looks better.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But again, I want to make sure that the logo is something that the
> >>>> *Avro
> >>>>>> community* loves and agrees upon! I'm worried that the passing
> >>>> subjective
> >>>>>> preference of the marketing and publicity office at the Community
> >>> Over
> >>>> Code
> >>>>>> conference is casting its own 'shadow vote' here which is taking
> >> away
> >>>> from
> >>>>>> the gut feelings of the Avro community as a whole. I would just
> >> like
> >>> to
> >>>>>> encourage everyone to pick the design they like best in the final
> >>> vote,
> >>>>>> because at the end of the day, the logo that's chosen will
> >> ultimately
> >>>> be
> >>>>>> what represents Avro the project, and you as the contributors, not
> >>> the
> >>>>>> marketing and publicity office.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> To conclude, I don't think I'll be doing any additional revisions
> >> of
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> icons themselves in the future, so the options for the logos will
> >> be
> >>>> V9.2
> >>>>>> (or V.11.2 if you want an upward angle) and V3.2. I will be
> >> uploading
> >>>> some
> >>>>>> revisions for the font used in the final design (once a winner is
> >>>> chosen)
> >>>>>> to see if there is a better alternative on that front, but
> >> otherwise,
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> icon designs themselves will remain the same. Thanks again for all
> >>> your
> >>>>>> patience and feedback throughout the process!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> All my best,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Emma
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 5:22 AM Fokko Driesprong <fo...@apache.org
> >>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Great work again!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Based on what I was taught when studying graphic design, icons
> >>> for
> >>>>>> logos
> >>>>>>>> should be memorable and have the simplest possible design to
> >>>> convey the
> >>>>>>>> desired image
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks for the background information Emma, this makes a lot of
> >>>> sense to
> >>>>>>> me.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This is, I believe, because the angle of V11.2 hides the
> >> underside:
> >>>> this
> >>>>>>>> makes the plane look incomplete.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I agree, it is not obvious that it is a paper plane (which I like
> >>> as
> >>>> a
> >>>>>>> reference, because of childhood :) Both the pigeon and the paper
> >>>> plane
> >>>>>> are
> >>>>>>> awesome. Maybe the plane is a bit more timeless, while the pigeon
> >>>> might
> >>>>>>> bring up IP over Avian Carriers
> >>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers>.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'll vote for V9.2 pointing slightly upwards as well.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Kind regards,
> >>>>>>> Fokko
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Op di 17 okt 2023 om 14:54 schreef Oscar Westra van Holthe -
> >> Kind <
> >>>>>>> opw...@apache.org>:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The results yesterday show that V9.2 is perceived as better
> >> than
> >>>> V11.2,
> >>>>>>>> despite being angled downward. This is, I believe, because the
> >>>> angle of
> >>>>>>>> V11.2 hides the underside: this makes the plane look
> >> incomplete.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> My vote is for V9.2 if changed to fly upward, V3.1 otherwise.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Kind regards,
> >>>>>>>> Oscar
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 at 21:46, Emma K <emma.a.kel...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thank you for your kind words throughout the process and
> >> vote!
> >>> I
> >>>>>> wanted
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> refrain from jumping in earlier lest I accidentally
> >> influenced
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>> initial
> >>>>>>>>> vote in any way!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Just wanted to hop in now and give my thoughts on the
> >>> suggestions
> >>>>>> Ryan
> >>>>>>>>> received at the Community Over Code conference and Oscar's
> >>>> suggestion
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>> another possible upwards variant.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'll start with Oscar's suggestion first, which also ties
> >> into
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>> first
> >>>>>>>>> point of advice Ryan received from the marketing and
> >> publicity
> >>>>>> office.
> >>>>>>> If
> >>>>>>>>> we'd like to follow ASF's marketing team's intuition that the
> >>>> upward
> >>>>>>>> design
> >>>>>>>>> of 11.2 is better than the downward design of 9.2 I think
> >>> that's
> >>>>>> valid
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> makes sense! If this is the case, then I would suggest we use
> >>> the
> >>>>>> 11.2
> >>>>>>>>> design rather than the 9.2 design, and I can make some slight
> >>>>>>> adjustments
> >>>>>>>>> to the angle of the plane as we see fit. I'll add that I am a
> >>>> little
> >>>>>>> more
> >>>>>>>>> hesitant about this approach only because the 11.2 design did
> >>> not
> >>>>>> beat
> >>>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>> or tie with the votes of design 9.2 in the first round of
> >>>> voting, and
> >>>>>>>>> ultimately I would like the final logo to be something that
> >> the
> >>>>>>> community
> >>>>>>>>> as a whole loves and agrees upon!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The next suggestion Ryan received was based on the PT Mono
> >> font
> >>>>>> being a
> >>>>>>>>> little strange for the word 'Avro' as the r is the only
> >> serifed
> >>>>>> letter.
> >>>>>>>>> This is something I didn't notice before but they are right!
> >> I
> >>>>>> actually
> >>>>>>>>> already have five other fonts on the backburner that I tried
> >>>> when I
> >>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>> drafting the original design versions but I personally liked
> >>> the
> >>>> PT
> >>>>>>> Mono
> >>>>>>>>> font the best so gave that as the only option (which in
> >>> hindsight
> >>>>>> might
> >>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>> have been the best choice). What I can do is once the final
> >>> icon
> >>>> is
> >>>>>>>> chosen
> >>>>>>>>> as the winner (either the plane or the pigeon) I can draft
> >> up a
> >>>> few
> >>>>>>> more
> >>>>>>>>> versions with the alternate font choices and we can decide if
> >>>> one of
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> other fonts will work better in the long run.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Finally, in terms of the last suggestion from the marketing
> >> and
> >>>>>>> publicity
> >>>>>>>>> office of having the word Avro in the plane's dark blue, I
> >> have
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> respectfully disagree with this assessment. The area of dark
> >>>> blue in
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> plane icons is so small that even at large sizes it would be
> >>>>>> difficult
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> read 'Avro' if it was there, and at small sizes, it would be
> >>>>>> impossible
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> parse. Based on what I was taught when studying graphic
> >> design,
> >>>> icons
> >>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>> logos should be memorable and have the simplest possible
> >> design
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>> convey
> >>>>>>>>> the desired image. As an example of this, think of Apple's
> >>> logo,
> >>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>> is a
> >>>>>>>>> simplistic apple icon with a chunk missing. I would posit
> >> that
> >>> if
> >>>>>> Apple
> >>>>>>>>> wrote 'Apple' on their icon, it wouldn't be nearly as
> >>> effective.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> That's my 2¢ anyways! I'm happy to make more adjustments to
> >> the
> >>>> fonts
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> the angles of the icons as we see fit, and I'm so excited to
> >>> see
> >>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>> design will be the final winner in the end! :D
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> All my best,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Emma
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 12:33 PM Oscar Westra van Holthe -
> >>> Kind <
> >>>>>>>>> os...@westravanholthe.nl> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The results are in: with 6 binding votes (all cast within 6
> >>>> hours),
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>>>> non-binding votes, it's a near-tie between V9.2 and V3.1.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> These are the votes:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>   - V9.2: 3 votes
> >>>>>>>>>>   - V10.2: 1 vote
> >>>>>>>>>>   - V11.2: 0 votes
> >>>>>>>>>>   - V3.1: 2 votes (I changed the vote for V6.1, as the
> >> V3.1
> >>>>>> variant
> >>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>   part of the vote)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> What's next: one week to vote by simple majority between
> >> V9.2
> >>>> and
> >>>>>>> V3.1.
> >>>>>>>>>> (given our quick votes last time, it's probably more than
> >>>> enough)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Then, if we choose for V9.2, perhaps Emma can also create a
> >>>> good
> >>>>>>>> version
> >>>>>>>>>> flying
> >>>>>>>>>> slightly upward
> >>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://clipart-library.com/newhp/31-316437_transparent-airplane-clipart-paper-airplane-clipart-png-png.png
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> instead
> >>>>>>>>>> of steeply like V11.2. I think we can leave it up to her
> >> good
> >>>>>>> judgement
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> determine if that's really an improvement.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> So, which do you like more: the plane V9.2, or the pigeon
> >>> V3.1?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
> >>>>>>>>>> Oscar
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 22:54, Ryan Skraba <r...@skraba.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello! I don't want to derail the conversation or vote,
> >> but
> >>>> I had
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> opportunity to attend the marketing and publicity office
> >>>> hours
> >>>>>>> during
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> community over Code conference. They had some pretty
> >>> specific
> >>>>>>>>> suggestions
> >>>>>>>>>>> (but not requirements of course). I'm on my phone but I
> >>> just
> >>>> want
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> capture them here!
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. Plane going up is better than down!
> >>>>>>>>>>> 2. PT Mono is peculiar for our specific word because the
> >> r
> >>>> has
> >>>>>>> serifs
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>> the others don't.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 3. If we use the arrow, it would look great to have the
> >>> word
> >>>> Avro
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> plane's dark blue!
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> It was a neat conversation and they said some really nice
> >>>> things
> >>>>>>>> about
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> initiative!
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If we do anything about 2 or 3, we can talk about any
> >>>> adjustments
> >>>>>>>> after
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> vote. To be honest, I'm 100% confident with these current
> >>>> logos
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> leaving
> >>>>>>>>>>> any changes to Emma's discretion!
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> All my bets Ryan
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023, 13:08 Ryan Blue <b...@tabular.io>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> My vote is for 10.2.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 9:02 AM Oscar Westra van Holthe
> >> -
> >>>> Kind <
> >>>>>>>>>>>> os...@westravanholthe.nl> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Since the start, I've been a fan of the pigeon. It
> >>> looks
> >>>>>> good,
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> it's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> very distinctive.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> And it's completely different from any send icon, so
> >> it
> >>>>>> cannot
> >>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> conflated
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with a message protocol icon.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> My vote is for V3.1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Oscar
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ✉️ Oscar Westra van Holthe - Kind <opw...@apache.org
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 🌐 https://github.com/opwvhk/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Op ma 2 okt. 2023 16:47 schreef Ryan Skraba <
> >>>> r...@skraba.com
> >>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't stop changing my mind, but I'm going to go
> >>> with
> >>>>>> V9.2
> >>>>>>>> -- I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> really like the pigeon too, but I think the paper
> >>> plane
> >>>>>> fits
> >>>>>>>> too
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nicely to pass up!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent work, Emma, and thanks Oscar for calling
> >>> the
> >>>>>> vote.
> >>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>> think
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your voting proposal makes sense!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 3:59 PM Ismaël Mejía <
> >>>>>>> ieme...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V9.2
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like Fokko I was also not so close to the subject
> >>>> and it
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>> great
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see the final selection.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It looks so great. Thanks for all the work Emma
> >> and
> >>>>>>> everyone!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ismaël
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 3:23 PM Fokko Driesprong <
> >>>>>>>>>> fo...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Oscar,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for raising this vote. I wasn't active
> >> in
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> conversation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around the new logo, but I followed it from the
> >>>>>> sideline.
> >>>>>>>> The
> >>>>>>>>>> new
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> logos are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fantastic. Kudos to Emma.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really like the pigeon, especially the one
> >> with
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> envelope!
> >>>>>>>>>>> My
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> vote
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goes to V6.1 if I can't vote on the alternative
> >>>> version
> >>>>>>> :)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, Fokko
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Op ma 2 okt 2023 om 14:14 schreef Oscar Westra
> >>> van
> >>>>>>> Holthe -
> >>>>>>>>>> Kind
> >>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> os...@westravanholthe.nl>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The past month, there has been new progress
> >> on
> >>>> our
> >>>>>>> search
> >>>>>>>>>> for a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> new
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> logo (
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AVRO-3554 <
> >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AVRO-3554
> >>>>>>>>>>> ).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Emma Kellam and the feedback we've all given,
> >>> we
> >>>> can
> >>>>>>> now
> >>>>>>>>>>> proceed
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> vote on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the matter.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These are the finalists to choose from (if
> >> the
> >>>> image
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>> unreadable,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links to the comment where the finalists are
> >>>>>>> announced):
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AVRO-3554?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=17770969#comment-17770969
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So now, we can vote. Because a logo lasts
> >>> longer
> >>>>>> than a
> >>>>>>>>>> typical
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> release,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rules deviate from the usual rules
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   - the vote lasts 2 weeks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   - to avoid confusion, please vote with the
> >>>> V...
> >>>>>>>>>> ifentifier:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> V9.2,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> V10.2,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   V11.2, V3.1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   - the winner is the logo with at least two
> >>> (2)
> >>>>>> votes
> >>>>>>>>> more
> >>>>>>>>>>> than
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   runner-up
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   - if there is no clear winner, we'll vote
> >> by
> >>>>>> simple
> >>>>>>>>>> majority
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> between the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   top picks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please vote for your preference!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oscar
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ✉️ Oscar Westra van Holthe - Kind <
> >>>> opw...@apache.org
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 🌐 https://github.com/opwvhk/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan Blue
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Tabular
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> ✉️ Oscar Westra van Holthe - Kind <
> >> os...@westravanholthe.nl>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Oscar Westra van Holthe - Kind <os...@westravanholthe.nl>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> David M. Carr
> >>>>> da...@carrclan.us
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,
> >>>
> >>> Niels Basjes
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > ✉️ Oscar Westra van Holthe - Kind <os...@westravanholthe.nl>
>
> --
> Daniel Kulp
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