Thanks for the explanation, Emma! My vote still goes to 9.2
Cheers, Fokko Op ma 23 okt 2023 om 07:39 schreef Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>: > > v9.2 for me. I definitely prefer the blue color and I really don’t get > the pigeon. > > Dan > > > > On Oct 23, 2023, at 5:04 AM, Oscar Westra van Holthe - Kind < > os...@westravanholthe.nl> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > TL;DR: if you haven't voted yet, please do so! > > > > As Emma has shown that an upwards angle change for V9.2 doesn't work, I > > think we should drop that version from the vote. > > > > This means, with the (binding) votes so far, that the result is a tie: > > > > - V9.2: 2 votes > > - V3.1: 2 votes > > > > Note: not everyone who voted the first round has voted again. > > > > *So if you have an opinion on the Avro logo, please vote!* > > > > On a side note: when I count all votes, there is no tie (there's an extra > > vote for v3.1). So if there are no additional votes, we can still have a > > result. > > > > > > Kind regards, > > Oscar > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 at 16:42, Emma K <emma.a.kel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Oops! I realized there is a typo in my last message. I wrote that V3.2 > is a > >> finalist (the pigeon without the outlines) instead of V3.1 as a finalist > >> (the pigeon with the outlines), my mistake! > >> The finalists are V9.2 (or V11.2 if you prefer upwards) and V3.1 > >> Apologies for the confusion! > >> > >> All the best, > >> Emma > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 9:46 AM Niels Basjes <ni...@basjes.nl> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I had a good look at the logos and the pigeon version (v3.2 without the > >>> line around it) has my preference. > >>> That said I'm totally fine if we use the v9.2 which also looks awesome. > >>> > >>> Niels > >>> > >>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 2:37 PM Ryan Skraba <r...@skraba.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> All of this is amazing -- it's really awesome for me to hear your > >>>> thought processes and arguments for the design. I think we're pretty > >>>> lucky to have this insight! My apologies for the delay, I just got > >>>> back from a vacation following the conference :D > >>>> > >>>> I wish I had better expressed the positive sentiment we got for the > >>>> designs when I was showing them off in person. I passed along the > >>>> suggestions because they were interesting, but definitely NOT > >>>> presented as mandatory. There will be ZERO hard feelings if we make > >>>> our own decision! > >>>> > >>>> I didn't say it in the first mail, but my subjective opinion is to > >>>> *disagree* with changing the airplane angle upwards. Paper airplanes > >>>> that travel well *coast* easily (like Avro data). > >>>> > >>>> I maintain my v9.2 vote! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 6:59 AM David M. Carr <da...@carrclan.us> > >> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Great work on these, Emma. My preference is for V3.2. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 2:37 PM Emma K <emma.a.kel...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hi all, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I uploaded some new images to the Jira issue here < > >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AVRO-3554> to visually > >> capture > >>>> the > >>>>>> suggestions for adjusting the upward angle design. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I wanted to show what it looks like if the upward angle of the > >> plane > >>>> logo > >>>>>> is changed so that the underside is visible. The problem is that > >> the > >>>> blobby > >>>>>> bits of the tail block the underside of the plane when adjusted to > >>>> this new > >>>>>> angle and make the design less clean and even less obvious as to > >> what > >>>> the > >>>>>> icon is, which is why in the original upward design V11.2 I didn't > >>> add > >>>> any > >>>>>> underside and instead opted for a cleaner but more abstract > >>>> representation > >>>>>> of the plane icon. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I also wanted to show what it looks like if I just rotate the V9.2 > >>>> design > >>>>>> to an upward angle with no other changes. This also doesn't work, > >>>> because > >>>>>> the flow of the blobs isn't right for this orientation and the > >>>> underside of > >>>>>> the plane isn't right for this angle. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> To clarify a bit on what I wrote previously, I said that it was > >> valid > >>>> and > >>>>>> made sense that the marketing booth preferred the upward-angle > >>> design. > >>>> When > >>>>>> I said that, I did not mean to suggest that the upward angle was > >>> better > >>>>>> than the other designs, what I meant to do was just validate that > >> it > >>>> was > >>>>>> okay for them to have that preference! The thing that's hard about > >>>> design > >>>>>> is that it's so subjective and everyone will have their own unique > >>>> opinions > >>>>>> on what looks better. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> But again, I want to make sure that the logo is something that the > >>>> *Avro > >>>>>> community* loves and agrees upon! I'm worried that the passing > >>>> subjective > >>>>>> preference of the marketing and publicity office at the Community > >>> Over > >>>> Code > >>>>>> conference is casting its own 'shadow vote' here which is taking > >> away > >>>> from > >>>>>> the gut feelings of the Avro community as a whole. I would just > >> like > >>> to > >>>>>> encourage everyone to pick the design they like best in the final > >>> vote, > >>>>>> because at the end of the day, the logo that's chosen will > >> ultimately > >>>> be > >>>>>> what represents Avro the project, and you as the contributors, not > >>> the > >>>>>> marketing and publicity office. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> To conclude, I don't think I'll be doing any additional revisions > >> of > >>>> the > >>>>>> icons themselves in the future, so the options for the logos will > >> be > >>>> V9.2 > >>>>>> (or V.11.2 if you want an upward angle) and V3.2. I will be > >> uploading > >>>> some > >>>>>> revisions for the font used in the final design (once a winner is > >>>> chosen) > >>>>>> to see if there is a better alternative on that front, but > >> otherwise, > >>>> the > >>>>>> icon designs themselves will remain the same. Thanks again for all > >>> your > >>>>>> patience and feedback throughout the process! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> All my best, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Emma > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 5:22 AM Fokko Driesprong <fo...@apache.org > >>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Great work again! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Based on what I was taught when studying graphic design, icons > >>> for > >>>>>> logos > >>>>>>>> should be memorable and have the simplest possible design to > >>>> convey the > >>>>>>>> desired image > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks for the background information Emma, this makes a lot of > >>>> sense to > >>>>>>> me. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> This is, I believe, because the angle of V11.2 hides the > >> underside: > >>>> this > >>>>>>>> makes the plane look incomplete. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I agree, it is not obvious that it is a paper plane (which I like > >>> as > >>>> a > >>>>>>> reference, because of childhood :) Both the pigeon and the paper > >>>> plane > >>>>>> are > >>>>>>> awesome. Maybe the plane is a bit more timeless, while the pigeon > >>>> might > >>>>>>> bring up IP over Avian Carriers > >>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers>. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'll vote for V9.2 pointing slightly upwards as well. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Kind regards, > >>>>>>> Fokko > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Op di 17 okt 2023 om 14:54 schreef Oscar Westra van Holthe - > >> Kind < > >>>>>>> opw...@apache.org>: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi all, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The results yesterday show that V9.2 is perceived as better > >> than > >>>> V11.2, > >>>>>>>> despite being angled downward. This is, I believe, because the > >>>> angle of > >>>>>>>> V11.2 hides the underside: this makes the plane look > >> incomplete. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> My vote is for V9.2 if changed to fly upward, V3.1 otherwise. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Kind regards, > >>>>>>>> Oscar > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 at 21:46, Emma K <emma.a.kel...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hi all, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you for your kind words throughout the process and > >> vote! > >>> I > >>>>>> wanted > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> refrain from jumping in earlier lest I accidentally > >> influenced > >>>> the > >>>>>>>> initial > >>>>>>>>> vote in any way! > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Just wanted to hop in now and give my thoughts on the > >>> suggestions > >>>>>> Ryan > >>>>>>>>> received at the Community Over Code conference and Oscar's > >>>> suggestion > >>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>> another possible upwards variant. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I'll start with Oscar's suggestion first, which also ties > >> into > >>>> the > >>>>>>> first > >>>>>>>>> point of advice Ryan received from the marketing and > >> publicity > >>>>>> office. > >>>>>>> If > >>>>>>>>> we'd like to follow ASF's marketing team's intuition that the > >>>> upward > >>>>>>>> design > >>>>>>>>> of 11.2 is better than the downward design of 9.2 I think > >>> that's > >>>>>> valid > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>> makes sense! If this is the case, then I would suggest we use > >>> the > >>>>>> 11.2 > >>>>>>>>> design rather than the 9.2 design, and I can make some slight > >>>>>>> adjustments > >>>>>>>>> to the angle of the plane as we see fit. I'll add that I am a > >>>> little > >>>>>>> more > >>>>>>>>> hesitant about this approach only because the 11.2 design did > >>> not > >>>>>> beat > >>>>>>>> out > >>>>>>>>> or tie with the votes of design 9.2 in the first round of > >>>> voting, and > >>>>>>>>> ultimately I would like the final logo to be something that > >> the > >>>>>>> community > >>>>>>>>> as a whole loves and agrees upon! > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The next suggestion Ryan received was based on the PT Mono > >> font > >>>>>> being a > >>>>>>>>> little strange for the word 'Avro' as the r is the only > >> serifed > >>>>>> letter. > >>>>>>>>> This is something I didn't notice before but they are right! > >> I > >>>>>> actually > >>>>>>>>> already have five other fonts on the backburner that I tried > >>>> when I > >>>>>> was > >>>>>>>>> drafting the original design versions but I personally liked > >>> the > >>>> PT > >>>>>>> Mono > >>>>>>>>> font the best so gave that as the only option (which in > >>> hindsight > >>>>>> might > >>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>> have been the best choice). What I can do is once the final > >>> icon > >>>> is > >>>>>>>> chosen > >>>>>>>>> as the winner (either the plane or the pigeon) I can draft > >> up a > >>>> few > >>>>>>> more > >>>>>>>>> versions with the alternate font choices and we can decide if > >>>> one of > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> other fonts will work better in the long run. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Finally, in terms of the last suggestion from the marketing > >> and > >>>>>>> publicity > >>>>>>>>> office of having the word Avro in the plane's dark blue, I > >> have > >>>> to > >>>>>>>>> respectfully disagree with this assessment. The area of dark > >>>> blue in > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> plane icons is so small that even at large sizes it would be > >>>>>> difficult > >>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> read 'Avro' if it was there, and at small sizes, it would be > >>>>>> impossible > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> parse. Based on what I was taught when studying graphic > >> design, > >>>> icons > >>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>> logos should be memorable and have the simplest possible > >> design > >>>> to > >>>>>>> convey > >>>>>>>>> the desired image. As an example of this, think of Apple's > >>> logo, > >>>>>> which > >>>>>>>> is a > >>>>>>>>> simplistic apple icon with a chunk missing. I would posit > >> that > >>> if > >>>>>> Apple > >>>>>>>>> wrote 'Apple' on their icon, it wouldn't be nearly as > >>> effective. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> That's my 2¢ anyways! I'm happy to make more adjustments to > >> the > >>>> fonts > >>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>> the angles of the icons as we see fit, and I'm so excited to > >>> see > >>>>>> which > >>>>>>>>> design will be the final winner in the end! :D > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> All my best, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Emma > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 12:33 PM Oscar Westra van Holthe - > >>> Kind < > >>>>>>>>> os...@westravanholthe.nl> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The results are in: with 6 binding votes (all cast within 6 > >>>> hours), > >>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>> no > >>>>>>>>>> non-binding votes, it's a near-tie between V9.2 and V3.1. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> These are the votes: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> - V9.2: 3 votes > >>>>>>>>>> - V10.2: 1 vote > >>>>>>>>>> - V11.2: 0 votes > >>>>>>>>>> - V3.1: 2 votes (I changed the vote for V6.1, as the > >> V3.1 > >>>>>> variant > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>>>> part of the vote) > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> What's next: one week to vote by simple majority between > >> V9.2 > >>>> and > >>>>>>> V3.1. > >>>>>>>>>> (given our quick votes last time, it's probably more than > >>>> enough) > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Then, if we choose for V9.2, perhaps Emma can also create a > >>>> good > >>>>>>>> version > >>>>>>>>>> flying > >>>>>>>>>> slightly upward > >>>>>>>>>> < > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > https://clipart-library.com/newhp/31-316437_transparent-airplane-clipart-paper-airplane-clipart-png-png.png > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> instead > >>>>>>>>>> of steeply like V11.2. I think we can leave it up to her > >> good > >>>>>>> judgement > >>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>> determine if that's really an improvement. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> So, which do you like more: the plane V9.2, or the pigeon > >>> V3.1? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Kind regards, > >>>>>>>>>> Oscar > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 22:54, Ryan Skraba <r...@skraba.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hello! I don't want to derail the conversation or vote, > >> but > >>>> I had > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> opportunity to attend the marketing and publicity office > >>>> hours > >>>>>>> during > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> community over Code conference. They had some pretty > >>> specific > >>>>>>>>> suggestions > >>>>>>>>>>> (but not requirements of course). I'm on my phone but I > >>> just > >>>> want > >>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>> capture them here! > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. Plane going up is better than down! > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. PT Mono is peculiar for our specific word because the > >> r > >>>> has > >>>>>>> serifs > >>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>> the others don't. > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. If we use the arrow, it would look great to have the > >>> word > >>>> Avro > >>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> plane's dark blue! > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> It was a neat conversation and they said some really nice > >>>> things > >>>>>>>> about > >>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> initiative! > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> If we do anything about 2 or 3, we can talk about any > >>>> adjustments > >>>>>>>> after > >>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> vote. To be honest, I'm 100% confident with these current > >>>> logos > >>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>> leaving > >>>>>>>>>>> any changes to Emma's discretion! > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> All my bets Ryan > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023, 13:08 Ryan Blue <b...@tabular.io> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> My vote is for 10.2. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 9:02 AM Oscar Westra van Holthe > >> - > >>>> Kind < > >>>>>>>>>>>> os...@westravanholthe.nl> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Since the start, I've been a fan of the pigeon. It > >>> looks > >>>>>> good, > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>> it's > >>>>>>>>>>>>> very distinctive. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> And it's completely different from any send icon, so > >> it > >>>>>> cannot > >>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>>>>> conflated > >>>>>>>>>>>>> with a message protocol icon. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> My vote is for V3.1 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Oscar > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ✉️ Oscar Westra van Holthe - Kind <opw...@apache.org > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 🌐 https://github.com/opwvhk/ > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Op ma 2 okt. 2023 16:47 schreef Ryan Skraba < > >>>> r...@skraba.com > >>>>>>> : > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't stop changing my mind, but I'm going to go > >>> with > >>>>>> V9.2 > >>>>>>>> -- I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> really like the pigeon too, but I think the paper > >>> plane > >>>>>> fits > >>>>>>>> too > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nicely to pass up! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent work, Emma, and thanks Oscar for calling > >>> the > >>>>>> vote. > >>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>>> think > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your voting proposal makes sense! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 3:59 PM Ismaël Mejía < > >>>>>>> ieme...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V9.2 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like Fokko I was also not so close to the subject > >>>> and it > >>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>> great > >>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see the final selection. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It looks so great. Thanks for all the work Emma > >> and > >>>>>>> everyone! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ismaël > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 3:23 PM Fokko Driesprong < > >>>>>>>>>> fo...@apache.org> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Oscar, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for raising this vote. I wasn't active > >> in > >>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> conversation > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around the new logo, but I followed it from the > >>>>>> sideline. > >>>>>>>> The > >>>>>>>>>> new > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> logos are > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fantastic. Kudos to Emma. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really like the pigeon, especially the one > >> with > >>>> the > >>>>>>>>> envelope! > >>>>>>>>>>> My > >>>>>>>>>>>>> vote > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goes to V6.1 if I can't vote on the alternative > >>>> version > >>>>>>> :) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, Fokko > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Op ma 2 okt 2023 om 14:14 schreef Oscar Westra > >>> van > >>>>>>> Holthe - > >>>>>>>>>> Kind > >>>>>>>>>>> < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> os...@westravanholthe.nl>: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The past month, there has been new progress > >> on > >>>> our > >>>>>>> search > >>>>>>>>>> for a > >>>>>>>>>>>> new > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> logo ( > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AVRO-3554 < > >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AVRO-3554 > >>>>>>>>>>> ). > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Emma Kellam and the feedback we've all given, > >>> we > >>>> can > >>>>>>> now > >>>>>>>>>>> proceed > >>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> vote on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the matter. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These are the finalists to choose from (if > >> the > >>>> image > >>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>> unreadable, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links to the comment where the finalists are > >>>>>>> announced): > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AVRO-3554?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=17770969#comment-17770969 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So now, we can vote. Because a logo lasts > >>> longer > >>>>>> than a > >>>>>>>>>> typical > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> release, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rules deviate from the usual rules > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting>: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - the vote lasts 2 weeks > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - to avoid confusion, please vote with the > >>>> V... > >>>>>>>>>> ifentifier: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> V9.2, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> V10.2, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V11.2, V3.1 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - the winner is the logo with at least two > >>> (2) > >>>>>> votes > >>>>>>>>> more > >>>>>>>>>>> than > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> runner-up > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - if there is no clear winner, we'll vote > >> by > >>>>>> simple > >>>>>>>>>> majority > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> between the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top picks > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please vote for your preference! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oscar > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ✉️ Oscar Westra van Holthe - Kind < > >>>> opw...@apache.org > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 🌐 https://github.com/opwvhk/ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan Blue > >>>>>>>>>>>> Tabular > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> ✉️ Oscar Westra van Holthe - Kind < > >> os...@westravanholthe.nl> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>> Oscar Westra van Holthe - Kind <os...@westravanholthe.nl> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> David M. Carr > >>>>> da...@carrclan.us > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten, > >>> > >>> Niels Basjes > >>> > >> > > > > > > -- > > > > ✉️ Oscar Westra van Holthe - Kind <os...@westravanholthe.nl> > > -- > Daniel Kulp > dk...@apache.org <mailto:dk...@apache.org> > Qlik - https://qlik.com <https://qlik.com/> >