+1 Committers are already trusted with what really matters... the source. On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:41 PM, Bruno Mahé <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't see the issue with committers having full access to our twitter > account. This is no different than being able to update our website. > Furthermore Apache CloudStack does give them access to it. > > > Thanks, > Bruno > > > On 03/11/2015 11:55 AM, Jay Vyas wrote: > >> Hi cos, good point --- and yes Of course - I was Just voicing my general >> thoughts on the subject. >> >> In general I think sharing It amongst commiters at least probably isn't a >> particularly dangerous thing to do. >> >> On Mar 11, 2015, at 2:51 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Jay, >>> >>> as you know PMC is a legally bound entity. As such we might be >>> responsible for >>> certain things happening in the community. Let's not rush any steps >>> unless >>> they are discussed and approved by PMC. >>> >>> Cos >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:43AM, jay vyas wrote: >>>> im open to sharing the password with anyone in the community who is a >>>> trusted and responsible bigtop contributor, such as yourself mark. I >>>> really have very little concern that the privilige will be abused. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Mark Grover <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> I am glad we are having a conversation about this, this is an important >>>>> subject. >>>>> >>>>> Seems like there is some disagreement in how we want to deal with >>>>> social >>>>> media - CTR, guidelines, etc.. Why don't we have a vote to decide? >>>>> That's >>>>> what voting is there for anyways, right?:-) >>>>> >>>>> Also sounds like the password will be shared within the PMC so >>>>> perhaps, a >>>>> PMC vote makes more sense? I am not a member of the PMC so I won't >>>>> start or >>>>> cast a vote but will share my opinion as a member of the community. I >>>>> really see no downside to having guidelines. In fact, that way, we will >>>>> have something we can refer to both within the project and outside the >>>>> project and it makes us more transparent as a community. It will be an >>>>> iterative process but I think it will be a great first step. And, since >>>>> Bruno seems to have some interest in that direction (correct me if I am >>>>> wrong, Bruno), why not we request Bruno to put together some concrete >>>>> set >>>>> of guidelines that folks can vote on? >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Roman Shaposhnik < >>>>> [email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 11:54 PM, Bruno Mahé <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 03/10/2015 11:41 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 11:38 PM, Bruno Mahé <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> While I do agree a formal process to bless tweets would be way too >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> heavy, >>>>>> >>>>>>> sharing the account password would not address the same issues that a >>>>>>>>> proper >>>>>>>>> guideline would. >>>>>>>>> Without guidelines, we could end up with self-contradicting tweets, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or >>>>> >>>>>> too >>>>>>>>> much deletion. All of it with little or no accountability or >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> explanation >>>>>> >>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> we would end up re-playing the same threads about what can be >>>>>>>>> tweeted >>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>> our PMC's account. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Same hypothetical can be applied to commits. It doesn't seem to >>>>>>>> happen >>>>>>>> in practice. Hence I'm not worried about it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Roman. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Commits are audit-able. >>>>>>> >>>>>> So are tweets if you want them to. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also commits are labeled as commited from the commiter rather than >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> >>>>>> PMC >>>>>> >>>>>> That's a good point, although in practice I don't think it'll make >>>>>> much >>>>>> difference. >>>>>> >>>>>> And last, what I prefer about commits is they don't deal with >>>>>>> opinions >>>>>>> >>>>>> :) >>>>> >>>>>> ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Roman. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> jay vyas >>>> >>> > -- Best regards, - Andy Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein (via Tom White)
