Come to think about this again, I believe you're right. There's no real difference between the code in permanent VCS like git or a tweet on the wire.
+1 as well On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:37AM, Andrew Purtell wrote: > +1 > Committers are already trusted with what really matters... the source. > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:41 PM, Bruno Mahé <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I don't see the issue with committers having full access to our twitter > > account. This is no different than being able to update our website. > > Furthermore Apache CloudStack does give them access to it. > > > > > > Thanks, > > Bruno > > > > > > On 03/11/2015 11:55 AM, Jay Vyas wrote: > > > >> Hi cos, good point --- and yes Of course - I was Just voicing my general > >> thoughts on the subject. > >> > >> In general I think sharing It amongst commiters at least probably isn't a > >> particularly dangerous thing to do. > >> > >> On Mar 11, 2015, at 2:51 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Jay, > >>> > >>> as you know PMC is a legally bound entity. As such we might be > >>> responsible for > >>> certain things happening in the community. Let's not rush any steps > >>> unless > >>> they are discussed and approved by PMC. > >>> > >>> Cos > >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:43AM, jay vyas wrote: > >>>> im open to sharing the password with anyone in the community who is a > >>>> trusted and responsible bigtop contributor, such as yourself mark. I > >>>> really have very little concern that the privilige will be abused. > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Mark Grover <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi all, > >>>>> I am glad we are having a conversation about this, this is an important > >>>>> subject. > >>>>> > >>>>> Seems like there is some disagreement in how we want to deal with > >>>>> social > >>>>> media - CTR, guidelines, etc.. Why don't we have a vote to decide? > >>>>> That's > >>>>> what voting is there for anyways, right?:-) > >>>>> > >>>>> Also sounds like the password will be shared within the PMC so > >>>>> perhaps, a > >>>>> PMC vote makes more sense? I am not a member of the PMC so I won't > >>>>> start or > >>>>> cast a vote but will share my opinion as a member of the community. I > >>>>> really see no downside to having guidelines. In fact, that way, we will > >>>>> have something we can refer to both within the project and outside the > >>>>> project and it makes us more transparent as a community. It will be an > >>>>> iterative process but I think it will be a great first step. And, since > >>>>> Bruno seems to have some interest in that direction (correct me if I am > >>>>> wrong, Bruno), why not we request Bruno to put together some concrete > >>>>> set > >>>>> of guidelines that folks can vote on? > >>>>> > >>>>> Mark > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Roman Shaposhnik < > >>>>> [email protected]> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 11:54 PM, Bruno Mahé <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 03/10/2015 11:41 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 11:38 PM, Bruno Mahé <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> While I do agree a formal process to bless tweets would be way too > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> heavy, > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> sharing the account password would not address the same issues that a > >>>>>>>>> proper > >>>>>>>>> guideline would. > >>>>>>>>> Without guidelines, we could end up with self-contradicting tweets, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> or > >>>>> > >>>>>> too > >>>>>>>>> much deletion. All of it with little or no accountability or > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> explanation > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>> we would end up re-playing the same threads about what can be > >>>>>>>>> tweeted > >>>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>>> our PMC's account. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Same hypothetical can be applied to commits. It doesn't seem to > >>>>>>>> happen > >>>>>>>> in practice. Hence I'm not worried about it. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>> Roman. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Commits are audit-able. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> So are tweets if you want them to. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Also commits are labeled as commited from the commiter rather than > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> PMC > >>>>>> > >>>>>> That's a good point, although in practice I don't think it'll make > >>>>>> much > >>>>>> difference. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> And last, what I prefer about commits is they don't deal with > >>>>>>> opinions > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> :) > >>>>> > >>>>>> ;-) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>> Roman. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> jay vyas > >>>> > >>> > > > > > -- > Best regards, > > - Andy > > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein > (via Tom White)
