Good $localtime, folks! I just want to underscore a really important
section of the document I provided yesterday, as it seems this detail is
lost in the mix. Tidelift very deliberately does not direct development.
I'll remain on the sidelines here as y'all deliberate, but I want to make
sure we're operating from the same set of facts.


*Why Tidelift works with maintainers*We want the open source projects used
by our customers—your downstream users—to be as healthy and secure as
possible. We believe this requires directly supporting maintainers and
their work, both financially and through providing tools and resources that
make it easier for them to be successful.


*What Tidelift expects from maintainers*Maintainers provide two things to
our customers: information (licensing details, context on CVEs) and
continuity (comfort that the package is maintained and is highly likely to
continue to be maintained). We also expect maintainers to abide by a Code
of Conduct. Neither Tidelift nor our customers direct development of
Tidelift-supported packages.


*What Tidelift expects of projects*We only work with projects that meet
certain standards: there must be a responsible vulnerability disclosure
process in place, and clear licensing metadata. While mature projects have
these standards in place, many of the open source projects we work with
have just 1 or 2 maintainers, and it’s not unusual for them to implement
these standards as part of preparing to work with us.

Some projects–such as those at the ASF–can’t implement those things on our
behalf due to policy constraints. Good news is that those projects tend to
already meet these standards! Our goal here is to promote good governance.

Josh Simmons (he/they), Sr. Ecosystem Strategy Lead @ Tidelift
<https://tidelift.com/>
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On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 10:24 AM Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote:

> Tidelift's model, which expects that maintainers do have direct and almost
> unassailable control over a project, is not compatible with the Apache Way.
> Tidelift's model works well with projects in which developers and
> maintainers can "do stuff" without worrying about building a consensus
> around whether or not their contributions are OK or not.
>
> I'd like to see how that model and Apache could fit together, but I'm at a
> loss to think about how. The main benefit that those who fund the work is
> not just an expectation that code will be fixed, etc, but a *requirement*
> that it be done. They are paying for the guarantee. This requires a
> development model in which those paid by Tidelift can forcibly introduce
> code and contributions at will. This conflicts with the ASF development
> model.
>
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