On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 9:42 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote:
> I think for (3) we're good, the ASF will intervene if projects are not ok. > > But for (1) and (2) I think the ASF *wants* our projects to be good > citizens, and we work towards that and support them, but entities such > as Tidelift or others could add value by measuring and reporting what > actually happens. > Feel free. All the data is available for ASF. Everything we do is public. > > But I think having external entities provide factual data on how well > our projects are doing can be useful, and for customers of Tidelift > and the like that certainly has value. > Sure. Please. Do. Measure. Publish. By all means. No problem with that. > Whatever mechanism our contributors use to finance themselves, having > information on which projects are most worthy of trust can help end > users select and finance the right projects and people. > Of course. Feel Free to provide objective data on it. Publishing information about how well projects are doing is great way to incentivise the committers to do better. I am 150% for it. This could be a great service to all OSS projects. But the Tidelift model is talking about "limiting" the individuals in the choices they made NOT measuring what they do. For multiple reasons those individuals in those projects might make different decisions (and be responsible for it). Imposing rules and limits by Tidelift is just against the rules of ASF. Measuring is not. If Tidelift adjusts the model to just measure, report and make the customers decide based on that - I think that is far more consistent with the way how ASF works. Don't try to make yourself a "policeman" controlling it. > > -Bertrand > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >
