The origin of the 10.5k number was the 30k initial budget request number for outreach minus the 19.5k put up by another sponser.
I agree it is not a multiple of 6.5k. I pointed out a few times that issue as well when we were asking for 5 interns for 30k that it was 2.5k short. On Sun, Jun 30, 2019, 10:22 Sage Sharp <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm not sure where the $10.5k number came from. Sponsorship for one > Outreachy intern is $6,500, and that number is not a multiple of that. You > can see our sponsorship levels on this page: > > https://www.outreachy.org/sponsor/ > > Sage Sharp > Outreachy Organizer > > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 7:47 AM Alex Harui <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Can I get a summary of all of these Outreachy threads? I'm not on > > private@diversity and I think I've read every email on this list, but > I'm > > seeing numbers like $10.5K being discussed and I have no clue where that > > number came from. I'm on fundraising@ as well and still don't recall > any > > source for those numbers. Also, I thought that there was more than one > > entity that was willing to donate directly to Outreachy and there was > only > > one or two ASF sponsors who were unable to redirect their money directly > to > > Outreachy, so I don't understand why we are still having these long > > discussions. > > > > I thought that if some entity was to donate money directly to Outreachy > > that there were no objections from anybody even if it benefited one or a > > few ASF projects and not others. I would hope that would be the > > recommended workflow. > > > > If it turns out there are some entities that are ok with the money they > > donated to the ASF going to Outreachy but for some reason can't directly > > donate to Outreachy, I would hope that we would make it clear that this > > workflow is not our recommended workflow but we would redirect some of > > their money to Outreachy and either let Outreachy pick which ASF project > > gets an intern, or can we document somewhere that this money was donated > > "on behalf of Entity X". > > > > And then, IMO, the ASF is not paying for code. Can we all agree to that > > and get going on Outreachy? > > > > It was interesting to see it pointed out that there is a financial > barrier > > to entry at the ASF. It would be nice if the ASF could find a way to > help > > lower that barrier without "paying for code", but maybe we should put > that > > in its own thread and spend more time brainstorming on that while we get > > going on Outreachy. IMO, the ASF has other barriers as well. Every ASF > > project I've looked at is huge compared to many of the projects I've seen > > on Github, so the learning curve may be tilted against inexperienced > > programmers and they may need a more expensive computer to build the > source > > without it affecting the interns productivity. But even then, the > > entities donating directly to Outreachy could fund that more expensive > > computer. The ASF should not feel obligated to take on smaller projects > > just to make Outreachy interns more successful. Contributing code to > the > > ASF is more like becoming a commercial truck driver, contributing to > GitHub > > is more like becoming a ride-share driver. > > > > One thought on the financial barrier before I forget: the ASF offers VMs > > to projects. Could they offer laptops as well? > > > > Thanks, > > -Alex > > > > > > > > >
