On 2019/06/30 11:01:54, Sam Ruby <[email protected]> wrote: 

> We have a strong tradition here of independence and being vendor
> neutral.  We don't pick winners and losers.  "We don't pay for code"
> is a useful approximation of those values.  It has plenty of
> exceptions, just like the ones that described in the link above.
> 

Actually, the principle is that we, the foundation, do not pay for development 
for Apache projects.

Phrasing it as "we do not pay for code" is a shorthand, but does not, in fact, 
"define" the tenet. Saying that such things as paying contractors for 
self-service Infra code is some sort of "exception" to that tenet, has been 
debunked my several people, as has been explained by numerous people including 
Greg, our head of Infra, previous director and previous Chairman. A logical 
outcome (effect) of that policy is that we are vendor neutral, but that is not 
the source of that tenet, but rather an extension of behaviors based on that 
tenet (we also have a duty to be vendor neutral as well, due to our 501(c)3 
status, but that is a related but different point).

Previous threads have made that distinction and clarification clear, and it has 
been confirmed by numerous people who have been officers, founders, directors, 
etc.

I would ask that those continuing to spread this misinformation, or 
mischaracterization of the actual facts, please stop doing so. Framing the 
argument as "we do not pay for code, (when we obviously do)" and "the core 
reason for this is neutrality" is incorrect and disingenuous and somewhat 
self-serving. It significantly harms the validity of their other arguments and 
points of view which have value and useful insight, and requires wasted time 
and energy for those who need to repeatedly set the facts and the record 
straight.

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