On 7/5/2019 12:03 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > Kevin, I encourage you to reconsider your -1 and to work on the specifics > in parallel.
This is a dialog to refine a deliverable. I am always in a state of reconsidering. There are a three places with vague terms which I pointed out before [1]. Here are some specific solutions that I think are tenable ways to work on it: #1: how specifically will you advertise this is a big question. Rich and Bertrand, you have both pointed out the difficulties the iot list will have with this exact issue. Do you have recommendations for this? I fear the committee is overestimating things and that "build it and they will come" will be a failure as it has historically been with the ASF. We want success so blog posts, email to members, approval of a pmcs@ email should all be considered. #2: I recommend a google form with a google sheet back end is used no less than 3 times at the end of first month, end of second month and end of the program to survey the interns and record their answers. #3: This entire phrase is unclear and vague. Surveying who for what purpose? Regards, KAM [1] #1: how specifically will you advertise this? It is extremely difficult to get the word spread on things within the ASF and there are concerns constantly with overwhelming people using bulk lists. Please discuss how you envision this happening because I see this as a pretty big hurdle: * Advertise this opportunity to projects and seek mentors & proposals. #2: What tool will we use for the feedback? Email? Surveys? Please specify the number of times and the frequency or a minimum such as no less than 3x's during the program. * Ask interns for feedback on their experiences at various times throughout the internship. #3: Define regular intervals, please. It's far too vague. * In a seperate effort we will be working on and administering a survey at regular intervals. -- Kevin A. McGrail Member, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
