Thanks Markus. I hope dojo is going well and looking forward to hearing how the trip went.
Safe travels! Ed On May 31, 2017 21:09, "Markus Geiss" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm still on a business trip in Indonesia, but I'll be back to my office > next week. > > Once I'm settle I'll reach out to you to sort out the issues and help > unblocking you. > > Greez from Jakarta > > Markus > > On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:00 AM Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Markus, >> >> I wanted to resurface this email to the top of your inbox in case you >> missed the last one I sent out. Nathan is still patiently awaiting this fix >> after nearly a year. Raunak is eager to complete the work once we can get >> the surveys stored on the back-end. >> >> Not only is it inhibiting one of our important customers in Latin >> America, it's now a blocker for two of our Google Summer of Code projects - >> our interns working on the mobile field officer app can't complete the >> surveys work that Nasim started and our intern working on the mobile >> self-service app can't add this functionality. >> >> Thank you for taking the time to help address this. >> >> Ed >> >> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Markus, >>> >>> I know that you are busy with the pilots at Generation 3, but all of the >>> community resources who have been looking into this are blocked and a >>> paying Mifos customer, Mentors International, who has willingly served as a >>> reference for our Latin American outreach efforts over the past year has >>> patiently been awaiting the ability to capture PPI for nearly a year now. >>> >>> This was also (just a small part) of the PPI commitment we made to the >>> 100M Project in 2015 >>> <http://mifos.org/blog/100-million-project-commitment/> and we've yet >>> to provide a workable solution for users to capture PPIs in Mifos. >>> >>> Can you please make yourself available for a call with Raunak (and >>> ideally Maulik and Nazeer) to help him get the through blocker once and for >>> all. I know the fix is simple but working through the fix together will be >>> the best usage of effort in the community to complete the valuable work >>> you've started for the SPM framework in Apache Fineract - SPM and the means >>> to properly collect these metrics really helps set apart our software from >>> others. >>> >>> We are also going to have survey collection as part of both the android >>> and web self-service apps so this is a critical blocker that we must get >>> removed. >>> >>> The full thread is down below and I've tried to bring some other >>> conversations from five other separate email threads. >>> >>> *Nathan's Request* >>> ------------------------ >>> >>> *As a user, I must have ability to view the completed PPI scorecards >>> along with its calculated score in the web app.* >>> >>> Nathan would also love to know where the score is stored in the DB so he >>> can do an average and see the PPI results for a group of clients and of >>> each client over time. >>> >>> If the interface could show that too it would be great. >>> Something like >>> Client Lincoln X >>> Date PPI 1 >>> Date PPI 2 >>> Date PPI 3 >>> >>> *Raunak's blocker:* >>> >>> I'm a little stuck on retrieving responses. Its proving to be a little >>> hurdle for me. I tried it maybe I'm doing something wrong. I am able to >>> create surveys but I am unable to retrieve responses for any of the new >>> surveys or even the ppi for philliphines >>> >>> *Santosh's issue:* >>> >>> However upon submission, responses don't seem to be linked to the lookup >>> table as they don't get scored and tabulated and there is no confirmation >>> that the responses have been captured nor an ability to view the recorded >>> responses. I wanted to identify 1) what is caused by Santosh not having >>> used the uploader 2) which are bugs and 3) which is functionality that has >>> not been implemented yet. >>> >>> *Markus' reply on March 23* >>> >>> The main issue with the uploader is because the URL for mifos has >>> changed since incubating at Apache, and not all surrounding tools are >>> update to reflect this change. >>> >>> Everything else seems to be an issue with how the client sends the data. >>> >>> >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Nathan McClellan < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> Any update? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 4:38 PM Nathan McClellan < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for the update! >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 1:24 PM Raunak Sett <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes, we are working on it. We are done with the new survey creation. >>>>>> We should be done with creation of lookup tables also for the tracking of >>>>>> key metrics within the next week. I am stuck on showing the responses for >>>>>> now. Its a little blocker for me. But I'm sure we'll get through it. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 7, 2017, 4:02 AM Nathan McClellan < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello all! >>>>>> Any progress? >>>>>> I'm not a developer but anything I can do to help? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:52 AM Nathan McClellan < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes that sounds great. >>>>>> On #3 please make sure it gives the score in the results. Also I >>>>>> would love to know where this is stored in the DB so we can do an average >>>>>> and see the PPI results for a group of clients and of each client over >>>>>> time. >>>>>> If the interface could show that too it would be great. >>>>>> Something like >>>>>> Client Lincoln X >>>>>> Date PPI 1 >>>>>> Date PPI 2 >>>>>> Date PPI 3 >>>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 5:22 PM Raunak Sett <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> @Ed Yes I'll be working on this. I am starting with the survey >>>>>> creation from the community app first after that I'll be working on this >>>>>> ASAP. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017, 4:43 AM Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Nathan, >>>>>> >>>>>> Just to clarify you need the following (1, 2, 3), correct? >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) Build out the UI for creating survey from available PPI scorecard >>>>>> >>>>>> Right now we should simply have to run the PPI-uploader tool on your >>>>>> instance and it will upload the PPIs that have been added as XMLs. This >>>>>> should work fine right now (apart from having to make some slight >>>>>> modifications to the PPI-uploader based on the recent changes to >>>>>> resources >>>>>> with switch to fineract from mifos x. >>>>>> 2) Capture/record surveys from a given entity in the web app >>>>>> >>>>>> This is currently available from the UI (you can test it out at >>>>>> https://demo.openmf.org (mifos/password) by navigating to any >>>>>> client, clicking more dropdown and then survey. You can then select the >>>>>> survey from the dropdown and enter responses. We do have some work that >>>>>> needs to be done to ensure the lookup tables are being linked to the >>>>>> scorecards and scores are being properly tabulated. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3) View recorded surveys from the web app >>>>>> >>>>>> This still needs to be built out. @Raunak - is this something you >>>>>> could take up? >>>>>> >>>>>> 4) Interface to create new surveys from scratch via the UI >>>>>> >>>>>> Out of scope for what you need. >>>>>> >>>>>> Additional Context from Another Email >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> These are the legacy docs on the old question group functionality: >>>>>> https://mifosforge.jira.com/wiki/display/MIFOS/Question+Groups+ >>>>>> and+PPI >>>>>> and http://www.flossmanuals.net/mifos-user-manual/how-to- >>>>>> add-a-question-group/ >>>>>> >>>>>> So for the UI, we need: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) UI to select an available PPI scorecard for a given country and >>>>>> then create a survey instance of this (ideally this could be done at >>>>>> different entities - client, loan) >>>>>> 2) UI to record the instance. For example if in step 1 above I >>>>>> wanted to create a survey instance of the PH PPI at the client level >>>>>> I now need a button within the client record to record survey and >>>>>> then display the scorecard >>>>>> 3) UI to view recorded survey. Now that a survey is recorded, I need >>>>>> to be able to view that recorded survey from the client record and >>>>>> see the date/time stamp/version. Is the date/version all recorded in >>>>>> background able to to be displayed. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now I have some other questions regarding the flexibility of the >>>>>> surveys/SPM framework and how it relates to data tables. Is the >>>>>> surveys framework only for pre-defined scorecards like PPI, IRIS, >>>>>> MPAT, UN SDGs, etc? Or is it also to create brand new "surveys". >>>>>> >>>>>> My first question would be this. If I want to create a survey from >>>>>> scratch (i.e. a completely unique 15-question business plan survey) >>>>>> should I do this via a Data Table or should I use your surveys framework. >>>>>> If the latter, should the surveys framework be used to define a >>>>>> question bank (of multiple question types - free-form, text, >>>>>> multi-select, >>>>>> etc.) and then from this question bank, create a survey (i.e. give >>>>>> it a title, select questions) and then save as a survey). If this is >>>>>> all possible, I want to work with volunteers to finalize the wireframes >>>>>> Nayan worked on and implement this survey wizard to create surveys >>>>>> powered >>>>>> by the Surveys Framework. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Nathan McClellan < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the update. >>>>>> How many programing hours do you think are left? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 4:55 PM Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> HI Nathan, >>>>>> >>>>>> I apologize for the delays on this. I'm still trying to work with a >>>>>> volunteer to get this work finished up. Sorry that I can't expedite it >>>>>> any >>>>>> further. I'm in touch with Maulik along with Raunak. >>>>>> >>>>>> Markus replied separately regarding the query I had before: >>>>>> >>>>>> My first question would be this. If I want to create a survey from >>>>>> scratch (i.e. a completely unique 15-question business plan survey) >>>>>> should I do this via a Data Table or should I use your surveys >>>>>> framework. >>>>>> >>>>>> ============ >>>>>> >>>>>> Reply from Markus: The SPM framework was built to create any type of >>>>>> survey/questionnaire. PPI is just a sample use of it. I was testing >>>>>> it with MPAT, adn even homebrewn surveys. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Nathan McClellan < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>> Any update on this? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 10:52 AM Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ...
