Markus, Welcome back from from Indonesia! Have you had a chance to look into this?
Ed On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Markus Geiss <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey all, > > I will dedicate early next week to unblock you ... right now I'm trying to > keep up with work leftover from the past two week when I was on a business > travel. > > Cheers > > Markus > > On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 6:18 AM Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks Markus. I hope dojo is going well and looking forward to hearing >> how the trip went. >> >> Safe travels! >> >> Ed >> >> On May 31, 2017 21:09, "Markus Geiss" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hey all, >>> >>> I'm still on a business trip in Indonesia, but I'll be back to my office >>> next week. >>> >>> Once I'm settle I'll reach out to you to sort out the issues and help >>> unblocking you. >>> >>> Greez from Jakarta >>> >>> Markus >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:00 AM Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Markus, >>>> >>>> I wanted to resurface this email to the top of your inbox in case you >>>> missed the last one I sent out. Nathan is still patiently awaiting this fix >>>> after nearly a year. Raunak is eager to complete the work once we can get >>>> the surveys stored on the back-end. >>>> >>>> Not only is it inhibiting one of our important customers in Latin >>>> America, it's now a blocker for two of our Google Summer of Code projects - >>>> our interns working on the mobile field officer app can't complete the >>>> surveys work that Nasim started and our intern working on the mobile >>>> self-service app can't add this functionality. >>>> >>>> Thank you for taking the time to help address this. >>>> >>>> Ed >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Markus, >>>>> >>>>> I know that you are busy with the pilots at Generation 3, but all of >>>>> the community resources who have been looking into this are blocked and a >>>>> paying Mifos customer, Mentors International, who has willingly served as >>>>> a >>>>> reference for our Latin American outreach efforts over the past year has >>>>> patiently been awaiting the ability to capture PPI for nearly a year now. >>>>> >>>>> This was also (just a small part) of the PPI commitment we made to >>>>> the 100M Project in 2015 >>>>> <http://mifos.org/blog/100-million-project-commitment/> and we've yet >>>>> to provide a workable solution for users to capture PPIs in Mifos. >>>>> >>>>> Can you please make yourself available for a call with Raunak (and >>>>> ideally Maulik and Nazeer) to help him get the through blocker once and >>>>> for >>>>> all. I know the fix is simple but working through the fix together will be >>>>> the best usage of effort in the community to complete the valuable work >>>>> you've started for the SPM framework in Apache Fineract - SPM and the >>>>> means >>>>> to properly collect these metrics really helps set apart our software from >>>>> others. >>>>> >>>>> We are also going to have survey collection as part of both the >>>>> android and web self-service apps so this is a critical blocker that we >>>>> must get removed. >>>>> >>>>> The full thread is down below and I've tried to bring some other >>>>> conversations from five other separate email threads. >>>>> >>>>> *Nathan's Request* >>>>> ------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> *As a user, I must have ability to view the completed PPI scorecards >>>>> along with its calculated score in the web app.* >>>>> >>>>> Nathan would also love to know where the score is stored in the DB so >>>>> he can do an average and see the PPI results for a group of clients and of >>>>> each client over time. >>>>> >>>>> If the interface could show that too it would be great. >>>>> Something like >>>>> Client Lincoln X >>>>> Date PPI 1 >>>>> Date PPI 2 >>>>> Date PPI 3 >>>>> >>>>> *Raunak's blocker:* >>>>> >>>>> I'm a little stuck on retrieving responses. Its proving to be a little >>>>> hurdle for me. I tried it maybe I'm doing something wrong. I am able to >>>>> create surveys but I am unable to retrieve responses for any of the new >>>>> surveys or even the ppi for philliphines >>>>> >>>>> *Santosh's issue:* >>>>> >>>>> However upon submission, responses don't seem to be linked to the >>>>> lookup table as they don't get scored and tabulated and there is no >>>>> confirmation that the responses have been captured nor an ability to view >>>>> the recorded responses. I wanted to identify 1) what is caused by Santosh >>>>> not having used the uploader 2) which are bugs and 3) which is >>>>> functionality that has not been implemented yet. >>>>> >>>>> *Markus' reply on March 23* >>>>> >>>>> The main issue with the uploader is because the URL for mifos has >>>>> changed since incubating at Apache, and not all surrounding tools are >>>>> update to reflect this change. >>>>> >>>>> Everything else seems to be an issue with how the client sends the >>>>> data. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ed >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Nathan McClellan < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>> Any update? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 4:38 PM Nathan McClellan < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for the update! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 1:24 PM Raunak Sett <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, we are working on it. We are done with the new survey >>>>>>>> creation. We should be done with creation of lookup tables also for the >>>>>>>> tracking of key metrics within the next week. I am stuck on showing the >>>>>>>> responses for now. Its a little blocker for me. But I'm sure we'll get >>>>>>>> through it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 7, 2017, 4:02 AM Nathan McClellan < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello all! >>>>>>>> Any progress? >>>>>>>> I'm not a developer but anything I can do to help? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:52 AM Nathan McClellan < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes that sounds great. >>>>>>>> On #3 please make sure it gives the score in the results. Also I >>>>>>>> would love to know where this is stored in the DB so we can do an >>>>>>>> average >>>>>>>> and see the PPI results for a group of clients and of each client over >>>>>>>> time. >>>>>>>> If the interface could show that too it would be great. >>>>>>>> Something like >>>>>>>> Client Lincoln X >>>>>>>> Date PPI 1 >>>>>>>> Date PPI 2 >>>>>>>> Date PPI 3 >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 5:22 PM Raunak Sett <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> @Ed Yes I'll be working on this. I am starting with the survey >>>>>>>> creation from the community app first after that I'll be working on >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> ASAP. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017, 4:43 AM Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nathan, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just to clarify you need the following (1, 2, 3), correct? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1) Build out the UI for creating survey from available PPI >>>>>>>> scorecard >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Right now we should simply have to run the PPI-uploader tool on >>>>>>>> your instance and it will upload the PPIs that have been added as XMLs. >>>>>>>> This should work fine right now (apart from having to make some slight >>>>>>>> modifications to the PPI-uploader based on the recent changes to >>>>>>>> resources >>>>>>>> with switch to fineract from mifos x. >>>>>>>> 2) Capture/record surveys from a given entity in the web app >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is currently available from the UI (you can test it out at >>>>>>>> https://demo.openmf.org (mifos/password) by navigating to any >>>>>>>> client, clicking more dropdown and then survey. You can then select the >>>>>>>> survey from the dropdown and enter responses. We do have some work that >>>>>>>> needs to be done to ensure the lookup tables are being linked to the >>>>>>>> scorecards and scores are being properly tabulated. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 3) View recorded surveys from the web app >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This still needs to be built out. @Raunak - is this something you >>>>>>>> could take up? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 4) Interface to create new surveys from scratch via the UI >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Out of scope for what you need. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Additional Context from Another Email >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> These are the legacy docs on the old question group functionality: >>>>>>>> https://mifosforge.jira.com/wiki/display/MIFOS/Question+Groups+ >>>>>>>> and+PPI >>>>>>>> and http://www.flossmanuals.net/mifos-user-manual/how-to- >>>>>>>> add-a-question-group/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So for the UI, we need: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1) UI to select an available PPI scorecard for a given country and >>>>>>>> then create a survey instance of this (ideally this could be done >>>>>>>> at different entities - client, loan) >>>>>>>> 2) UI to record the instance. For example if in step 1 above I >>>>>>>> wanted to create a survey instance of the PH PPI at the client >>>>>>>> level I now need a button within the client record to record survey and >>>>>>>> then display the scorecard >>>>>>>> 3) UI to view recorded survey. Now that a survey is recorded, I >>>>>>>> need to be able to view that recorded survey from the client >>>>>>>> record and see the date/time stamp/version. Is the date/version all >>>>>>>> recorded in background able to to be displayed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now I have some other questions regarding the flexibility of the >>>>>>>> surveys/SPM framework and how it relates to data tables. Is the >>>>>>>> surveys framework only for pre-defined scorecards like PPI, IRIS, >>>>>>>> MPAT, UN SDGs, etc? Or is it also to create brand new "surveys". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My first question would be this. If I want to create a survey from >>>>>>>> scratch (i.e. a completely unique 15-question business plan survey) >>>>>>>> should I do this via a Data Table or should I use your surveys >>>>>>>> framework. >>>>>>>> If the latter, should the surveys framework be used to define a >>>>>>>> question bank (of multiple question types - free-form, text, >>>>>>>> multi-select, >>>>>>>> etc.) and then from this question bank, create a survey (i.e. give >>>>>>>> it a title, select questions) and then save as a survey). If this >>>>>>>> is all possible, I want to work with volunteers to finalize the >>>>>>>> wireframes >>>>>>>> Nayan worked on and implement this survey wizard to create surveys >>>>>>>> powered >>>>>>>> by the Surveys Framework. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Nathan McClellan < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for the update. >>>>>>>> How many programing hours do you think are left? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 4:55 PM Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> HI Nathan, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I apologize for the delays on this. I'm still trying to work with a >>>>>>>> volunteer to get this work finished up. Sorry that I can't expedite it >>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>> further. I'm in touch with Maulik along with Raunak. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Markus replied separately regarding the query I had before: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My first question would be this. If I want to create a survey from >>>>>>>> scratch (i.e. a completely unique 15-question business plan survey) >>>>>>>> should I do this via a Data Table or should I use your surveys >>>>>>>> framework. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ============ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Reply from Markus: The SPM framework was built to create any type >>>>>>>> of survey/questionnaire. PPI is just a sample use of it. I was >>>>>>>> testing it with MPAT, adn even homebrewn surveys. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Nathan McClellan < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>>> Any update on this? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- > Markus Geiss > Chief Technology Officer, Kuelap, Inc. <http://kuelap.io/> > +49 1522 9505306 <+49%201522%209505306> > -- *Ed Cable* President/CEO, Mifos Initiative [email protected] | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649 *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | *http://mifos.org <http://facebook.com/mifos> <http://www.twitter.com/mifos>
