Hey, sadly my internet is not working ... looks like a line is broken ... and I can't tell how long this will take.
As long as I don't have a decent internet connection it is nearly impossible to do some work. I'll keep you all posted on the progress. Sorry & Cheers Markus On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 5:52 PM Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: > Markus, > > Welcome back from from Indonesia! Have you had a chance to look into this? > > Ed > > On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Markus Geiss <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> I will dedicate early next week to unblock you ... right now I'm trying >> to keep up with work leftover from the past two week when I was on a >> business travel. >> >> Cheers >> >> Markus >> >> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 6:18 AM Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Markus. I hope dojo is going well and looking forward to hearing >>> how the trip went. >>> >>> Safe travels! >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> On May 31, 2017 21:09, "Markus Geiss" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey all, >>>> >>>> I'm still on a business trip in Indonesia, but I'll be back to my >>>> office next week. >>>> >>>> Once I'm settle I'll reach out to you to sort out the issues and help >>>> unblocking you. >>>> >>>> Greez from Jakarta >>>> >>>> Markus >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:00 AM Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Markus, >>>>> >>>>> I wanted to resurface this email to the top of your inbox in case you >>>>> missed the last one I sent out. Nathan is still patiently awaiting this >>>>> fix >>>>> after nearly a year. Raunak is eager to complete the work once we can get >>>>> the surveys stored on the back-end. >>>>> >>>>> Not only is it inhibiting one of our important customers in Latin >>>>> America, it's now a blocker for two of our Google Summer of Code projects >>>>> - >>>>> our interns working on the mobile field officer app can't complete the >>>>> surveys work that Nasim started and our intern working on the mobile >>>>> self-service app can't add this functionality. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for taking the time to help address this. >>>>> >>>>> Ed >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Markus, >>>>>> >>>>>> I know that you are busy with the pilots at Generation 3, but all of >>>>>> the community resources who have been looking into this are blocked and a >>>>>> paying Mifos customer, Mentors International, who has willingly served >>>>>> as a >>>>>> reference for our Latin American outreach efforts over the past year has >>>>>> patiently been awaiting the ability to capture PPI for nearly a year now. >>>>>> >>>>>> This was also (just a small part) of the PPI commitment we made to >>>>>> the 100M Project in 2015 >>>>>> <http://mifos.org/blog/100-million-project-commitment/> and we've >>>>>> yet to provide a workable solution for users to capture PPIs in Mifos. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you please make yourself available for a call with Raunak (and >>>>>> ideally Maulik and Nazeer) to help him get the through blocker once and >>>>>> for >>>>>> all. I know the fix is simple but working through the fix together will >>>>>> be >>>>>> the best usage of effort in the community to complete the valuable work >>>>>> you've started for the SPM framework in Apache Fineract - SPM and the >>>>>> means >>>>>> to properly collect these metrics really helps set apart our software >>>>>> from >>>>>> others. >>>>>> >>>>>> We are also going to have survey collection as part of both the >>>>>> android and web self-service apps so this is a critical blocker that we >>>>>> must get removed. >>>>>> >>>>>> The full thread is down below and I've tried to bring some other >>>>>> conversations from five other separate email threads. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Nathan's Request* >>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> *As a user, I must have ability to view the completed PPI scorecards >>>>>> along with its calculated score in the web app.* >>>>>> >>>>>> Nathan would also love to know where the score is stored in the DB so >>>>>> he can do an average and see the PPI results for a group of clients and >>>>>> of >>>>>> each client over time. >>>>>> >>>>>> If the interface could show that too it would be great. >>>>>> Something like >>>>>> Client Lincoln X >>>>>> Date PPI 1 >>>>>> Date PPI 2 >>>>>> Date PPI 3 >>>>>> >>>>>> *Raunak's blocker:* >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm a little stuck on retrieving responses. Its proving to be a >>>>>> little hurdle for me. I tried it maybe I'm doing something wrong. I am >>>>>> able >>>>>> to create surveys but I am unable to retrieve responses for any of the >>>>>> new >>>>>> surveys or even the ppi for philliphines >>>>>> >>>>>> *Santosh's issue:* >>>>>> >>>>>> However upon submission, responses don't seem to be linked to the >>>>>> lookup table as they don't get scored and tabulated and there is no >>>>>> confirmation that the responses have been captured nor an ability to view >>>>>> the recorded responses. I wanted to identify 1) what is caused by Santosh >>>>>> not having used the uploader 2) which are bugs and 3) which is >>>>>> functionality that has not been implemented yet. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Markus' reply on March 23* >>>>>> >>>>>> The main issue with the uploader is because the URL for mifos has >>>>>> changed since incubating at Apache, and not all surrounding tools are >>>>>> update to reflect this change. >>>>>> >>>>>> Everything else seems to be an issue with how the client sends the >>>>>> data. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ed >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Nathan McClellan < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>> Any update? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 4:38 PM Nathan McClellan < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for the update! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 1:24 PM Raunak Sett <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, we are working on it. We are done with the new survey >>>>>>>>> creation. We should be done with creation of lookup tables also for >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> tracking of key metrics within the next week. I am stuck on showing >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> responses for now. Its a little blocker for me. But I'm sure we'll get >>>>>>>>> through it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 7, 2017, 4:02 AM Nathan McClellan < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello all! >>>>>>>>> Any progress? >>>>>>>>> I'm not a developer but anything I can do to help? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:52 AM Nathan McClellan < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes that sounds great. >>>>>>>>> On #3 please make sure it gives the score in the results. Also I >>>>>>>>> would love to know where this is stored in the DB so we can do an >>>>>>>>> average >>>>>>>>> and see the PPI results for a group of clients and of each client over >>>>>>>>> time. >>>>>>>>> If the interface could show that too it would be great. >>>>>>>>> Something like >>>>>>>>> Client Lincoln X >>>>>>>>> Date PPI 1 >>>>>>>>> Date PPI 2 >>>>>>>>> Date PPI 3 >>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 5:22 PM Raunak Sett <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> @Ed Yes I'll be working on this. I am starting with the survey >>>>>>>>> creation from the community app first after that I'll be working on >>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>> ASAP. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017, 4:43 AM Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nathan, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just to clarify you need the following (1, 2, 3), correct? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1) Build out the UI for creating survey from available PPI >>>>>>>>> scorecard >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Right now we should simply have to run the PPI-uploader tool on >>>>>>>>> your instance and it will upload the PPIs that have been added as >>>>>>>>> XMLs. >>>>>>>>> This should work fine right now (apart from having to make some slight >>>>>>>>> modifications to the PPI-uploader based on the recent changes to >>>>>>>>> resources >>>>>>>>> with switch to fineract from mifos x. >>>>>>>>> 2) Capture/record surveys from a given entity in the web app >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is currently available from the UI (you can test it out at >>>>>>>>> https://demo.openmf.org (mifos/password) by navigating to any >>>>>>>>> client, clicking more dropdown and then survey. You can then select >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> survey from the dropdown and enter responses. We do have some work >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> needs to be done to ensure the lookup tables are being linked to the >>>>>>>>> scorecards and scores are being properly tabulated. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 3) View recorded surveys from the web app >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This still needs to be built out. @Raunak - is this something you >>>>>>>>> could take up? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 4) Interface to create new surveys from scratch via the UI >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Out of scope for what you need. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Additional Context from Another Email >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> These are the legacy docs on the old question group functionality: >>>>>>>>> https://mifosforge.jira.com/wiki/display/MIFOS/Question+Groups+and+PPI >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> http://www.flossmanuals.net/mifos-user-manual/how-to-add-a-question-group/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So for the UI, we need: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1) UI to select an available PPI scorecard for a given country >>>>>>>>> and then create a survey instance of this (ideally this could be >>>>>>>>> done at different entities - client, loan) >>>>>>>>> 2) UI to record the instance. For example if in step 1 above I >>>>>>>>> wanted to create a survey instance of the PH PPI at the client >>>>>>>>> level I now need a button within the client record to record >>>>>>>>> survey and then display the scorecard >>>>>>>>> 3) UI to view recorded survey. Now that a survey is recorded, I >>>>>>>>> need to be able to view that recorded survey from the client >>>>>>>>> record and see the date/time stamp/version. Is the date/version all >>>>>>>>> recorded in background able to to be displayed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now I have some other questions regarding the flexibility of the >>>>>>>>> surveys/SPM framework and how it relates to data tables. Is the >>>>>>>>> surveys framework only for pre-defined scorecards like PPI, IRIS, >>>>>>>>> MPAT, UN SDGs, etc? Or is it also to create brand new "surveys". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My first question would be this. If I want to create a survey from >>>>>>>>> scratch (i.e. a completely unique 15-question business plan survey) >>>>>>>>> should I do this via a Data Table or should I use your surveys >>>>>>>>> framework. >>>>>>>>> If the latter, should the surveys framework be used to define a >>>>>>>>> question bank (of multiple question types - free-form, text, >>>>>>>>> multi-select, >>>>>>>>> etc.) and then from this question bank, create a survey (i.e. >>>>>>>>> give it a title, select questions) and then save as a survey). If >>>>>>>>> this is all possible, I want to work with volunteers to finalize the >>>>>>>>> wireframes Nayan worked on and implement this survey wizard to >>>>>>>>> create surveys powered by the Surveys Framework. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Nathan McClellan < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for the update. >>>>>>>>> How many programing hours do you think are left? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 4:55 PM Ed Cable <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> HI Nathan, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I apologize for the delays on this. I'm still trying to work with >>>>>>>>> a volunteer to get this work finished up. Sorry that I can't expedite >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> any further. I'm in touch with Maulik along with Raunak. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Markus replied separately regarding the query I had before: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My first question would be this. If I want to create a survey from >>>>>>>>> scratch (i.e. a completely unique 15-question business plan survey) >>>>>>>>> should I do this via a Data Table or should I use your surveys >>>>>>>>> framework. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ============ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- Markus Geiss Chief Technology Officer, Kuelap, Inc. <http://kuelap.io/> +49 1522 9505306
