Hey all, I will dedicate early next week to unblock you ... right now I'm trying to keep up with work leftover from the past two week when I was on a business travel.
Cheers Markus On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 6:18 AM Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Markus. I hope dojo is going well and looking forward to hearing > how the trip went. > > Safe travels! > > Ed > > On May 31, 2017 21:09, "Markus Geiss" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> I'm still on a business trip in Indonesia, but I'll be back to my office >> next week. >> >> Once I'm settle I'll reach out to you to sort out the issues and help >> unblocking you. >> >> Greez from Jakarta >> >> Markus >> >> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:00 AM Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Markus, >>> >>> I wanted to resurface this email to the top of your inbox in case you >>> missed the last one I sent out. Nathan is still patiently awaiting this fix >>> after nearly a year. Raunak is eager to complete the work once we can get >>> the surveys stored on the back-end. >>> >>> Not only is it inhibiting one of our important customers in Latin >>> America, it's now a blocker for two of our Google Summer of Code projects - >>> our interns working on the mobile field officer app can't complete the >>> surveys work that Nasim started and our intern working on the mobile >>> self-service app can't add this functionality. >>> >>> Thank you for taking the time to help address this. >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Markus, >>>> >>>> I know that you are busy with the pilots at Generation 3, but all of >>>> the community resources who have been looking into this are blocked and a >>>> paying Mifos customer, Mentors International, who has willingly served as a >>>> reference for our Latin American outreach efforts over the past year has >>>> patiently been awaiting the ability to capture PPI for nearly a year now. >>>> >>>> This was also (just a small part) of the PPI commitment we made to the >>>> 100M Project in 2015 >>>> <http://mifos.org/blog/100-million-project-commitment/> and we've yet >>>> to provide a workable solution for users to capture PPIs in Mifos. >>>> >>>> Can you please make yourself available for a call with Raunak (and >>>> ideally Maulik and Nazeer) to help him get the through blocker once and for >>>> all. I know the fix is simple but working through the fix together will be >>>> the best usage of effort in the community to complete the valuable work >>>> you've started for the SPM framework in Apache Fineract - SPM and the means >>>> to properly collect these metrics really helps set apart our software from >>>> others. >>>> >>>> We are also going to have survey collection as part of both the android >>>> and web self-service apps so this is a critical blocker that we must get >>>> removed. >>>> >>>> The full thread is down below and I've tried to bring some other >>>> conversations from five other separate email threads. >>>> >>>> *Nathan's Request* >>>> ------------------------ >>>> >>>> *As a user, I must have ability to view the completed PPI scorecards >>>> along with its calculated score in the web app.* >>>> >>>> Nathan would also love to know where the score is stored in the DB so >>>> he can do an average and see the PPI results for a group of clients and of >>>> each client over time. >>>> >>>> If the interface could show that too it would be great. >>>> Something like >>>> Client Lincoln X >>>> Date PPI 1 >>>> Date PPI 2 >>>> Date PPI 3 >>>> >>>> *Raunak's blocker:* >>>> >>>> I'm a little stuck on retrieving responses. Its proving to be a little >>>> hurdle for me. I tried it maybe I'm doing something wrong. I am able to >>>> create surveys but I am unable to retrieve responses for any of the new >>>> surveys or even the ppi for philliphines >>>> >>>> *Santosh's issue:* >>>> >>>> However upon submission, responses don't seem to be linked to the >>>> lookup table as they don't get scored and tabulated and there is no >>>> confirmation that the responses have been captured nor an ability to view >>>> the recorded responses. I wanted to identify 1) what is caused by Santosh >>>> not having used the uploader 2) which are bugs and 3) which is >>>> functionality that has not been implemented yet. >>>> >>>> *Markus' reply on March 23* >>>> >>>> The main issue with the uploader is because the URL for mifos has >>>> changed since incubating at Apache, and not all surrounding tools are >>>> update to reflect this change. >>>> >>>> Everything else seems to be an issue with how the client sends the data. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ed >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Nathan McClellan < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello all, >>>>> Any update? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 4:38 PM Nathan McClellan < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the update! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 1:24 PM Raunak Sett <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, we are working on it. We are done with the new survey creation. >>>>>>> We should be done with creation of lookup tables also for the tracking >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> key metrics within the next week. I am stuck on showing the responses >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> now. Its a little blocker for me. But I'm sure we'll get through it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 7, 2017, 4:02 AM Nathan McClellan < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello all! >>>>>>> Any progress? >>>>>>> I'm not a developer but anything I can do to help? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:52 AM Nathan McClellan < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes that sounds great. >>>>>>> On #3 please make sure it gives the score in the results. Also I >>>>>>> would love to know where this is stored in the DB so we can do an >>>>>>> average >>>>>>> and see the PPI results for a group of clients and of each client over >>>>>>> time. >>>>>>> If the interface could show that too it would be great. >>>>>>> Something like >>>>>>> Client Lincoln X >>>>>>> Date PPI 1 >>>>>>> Date PPI 2 >>>>>>> Date PPI 3 >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 5:22 PM Raunak Sett <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> @Ed Yes I'll be working on this. I am starting with the survey >>>>>>> creation from the community app first after that I'll be working on this >>>>>>> ASAP. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017, 4:43 AM Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nathan, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just to clarify you need the following (1, 2, 3), correct? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) Build out the UI for creating survey from available PPI scorecard >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Right now we should simply have to run the PPI-uploader tool on your >>>>>>> instance and it will upload the PPIs that have been added as XMLs. This >>>>>>> should work fine right now (apart from having to make some slight >>>>>>> modifications to the PPI-uploader based on the recent changes to >>>>>>> resources >>>>>>> with switch to fineract from mifos x. >>>>>>> 2) Capture/record surveys from a given entity in the web app >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is currently available from the UI (you can test it out at >>>>>>> https://demo.openmf.org (mifos/password) by navigating to any >>>>>>> client, clicking more dropdown and then survey. You can then select the >>>>>>> survey from the dropdown and enter responses. We do have some work that >>>>>>> needs to be done to ensure the lookup tables are being linked to the >>>>>>> scorecards and scores are being properly tabulated. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3) View recorded surveys from the web app >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This still needs to be built out. @Raunak - is this something you >>>>>>> could take up? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4) Interface to create new surveys from scratch via the UI >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Out of scope for what you need. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Additional Context from Another Email >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> These are the legacy docs on the old question group functionality: >>>>>>> https://mifosforge.jira.com/wiki/display/MIFOS/Question+Groups+and+PPI >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> http://www.flossmanuals.net/mifos-user-manual/how-to-add-a-question-group/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So for the UI, we need: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) UI to select an available PPI scorecard for a given country and >>>>>>> then create a survey instance of this (ideally this could be done >>>>>>> at different entities - client, loan) >>>>>>> 2) UI to record the instance. For example if in step 1 above I >>>>>>> wanted to create a survey instance of the PH PPI at the client >>>>>>> level I now need a button within the client record to record survey and >>>>>>> then display the scorecard >>>>>>> 3) UI to view recorded survey. Now that a survey is recorded, I >>>>>>> need to be able to view that recorded survey from the client record >>>>>>> and see the date/time stamp/version. Is the date/version all recorded in >>>>>>> background able to to be displayed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now I have some other questions regarding the flexibility of the >>>>>>> surveys/SPM framework and how it relates to data tables. Is the >>>>>>> surveys framework only for pre-defined scorecards like PPI, IRIS, >>>>>>> MPAT, UN SDGs, etc? Or is it also to create brand new "surveys". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My first question would be this. If I want to create a survey from >>>>>>> scratch (i.e. a completely unique 15-question business plan survey) >>>>>>> should I do this via a Data Table or should I use your surveys >>>>>>> framework. >>>>>>> If the latter, should the surveys framework be used to define a >>>>>>> question bank (of multiple question types - free-form, text, >>>>>>> multi-select, >>>>>>> etc.) and then from this question bank, create a survey (i.e. give >>>>>>> it a title, select questions) and then save as a survey). If this >>>>>>> is all possible, I want to work with volunteers to finalize the >>>>>>> wireframes >>>>>>> Nayan worked on and implement this survey wizard to create surveys >>>>>>> powered >>>>>>> by the Surveys Framework. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Nathan McClellan < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for the update. >>>>>>> How many programing hours do you think are left? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 4:55 PM Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HI Nathan, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I apologize for the delays on this. I'm still trying to work with a >>>>>>> volunteer to get this work finished up. Sorry that I can't expedite it >>>>>>> any >>>>>>> further. I'm in touch with Maulik along with Raunak. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Markus replied separately regarding the query I had before: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My first question would be this. If I want to create a survey from >>>>>>> scratch (i.e. a completely unique 15-question business plan survey) >>>>>>> should I do this via a Data Table or should I use your surveys >>>>>>> framework. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ============ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Reply from Markus: The SPM framework was built to create any type >>>>>>> of survey/questionnaire. PPI is just a sample use of it. I was >>>>>>> testing it with MPAT, adn even homebrewn surveys. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Nathan McClellan < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>> Any update on this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- Markus Geiss Chief Technology Officer, Kuelap, Inc. <http://kuelap.io/> +49 1522 9505306
