OK ... I'm back online (;

Can somebody please explain me what the issues are, so I can start fixing
them?

Thanks & Cheers

Markus

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 6:56 PM Markus Geiss <[email protected]> wrote:

> ha ha ... it is even worth ... looks like the income landline is broken
> somewhere at the last few inches ...
>
> a technician will come tomorrow and do some tests ... maybe then it is
> solved ...
>
> Cheers
>
> Markus
>
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 6:54 PM Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> That is really unfortunate - it's like in Nepal where the fiber-optic
>> cable got stolen as soon as it got installed!
>>
>> Please let us know when you get an alternate connection and are ready to
>> look at the code and identify a fix. The interns are standing by and i have
>> another volunteer who is ready to work on the front-end too.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 7:06 AM, Markus Geiss <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> sadly my internet is not working ... looks like a line is broken ... and
>>> I can't tell how long this will take.
>>>
>>> As long as I don't have a decent internet connection it is nearly
>>> impossible to do some work.
>>>
>>> I'll keep you all posted on the progress.
>>>
>>> Sorry & Cheers
>>>
>>> Markus
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 5:52 PM Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Markus,
>>>>
>>>> Welcome back from from Indonesia! Have you had a chance to look into
>>>> this?
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Markus Geiss <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I will dedicate early next week to unblock you ... right now I'm
>>>>> trying to keep up with work leftover from the past two week when I was on 
>>>>> a
>>>>> business travel.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Markus
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 6:18 AM Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Markus. I hope dojo is going well and looking forward to
>>>>>> hearing how the trip went.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Safe travels!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 31, 2017 21:09, "Markus Geiss" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm still on a business trip in Indonesia, but I'll be back to my
>>>>>>> office next week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once I'm settle I'll reach out to you to sort out the issues and
>>>>>>> help unblocking you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greez from Jakarta
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Markus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:00 AM Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Markus,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wanted to resurface this email to the top of your inbox in case
>>>>>>>> you missed the last one I sent out. Nathan is still patiently awaiting 
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> fix after nearly a year. Raunak is eager to complete the work once we 
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> get the surveys stored on the back-end.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not only is it inhibiting one of our important customers in Latin
>>>>>>>> America, it's now a blocker for two of our Google Summer of Code 
>>>>>>>> projects -
>>>>>>>> our interns working on the mobile field officer app can't complete the
>>>>>>>> surveys work that Nasim started and our intern working on the mobile
>>>>>>>> self-service app can't add this functionality.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you for taking the time to help address this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Ed Cable <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Markus,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know that you are busy with the pilots at Generation 3, but all
>>>>>>>>> of the community resources who have been looking into this are 
>>>>>>>>> blocked and
>>>>>>>>> a paying Mifos customer, Mentors International, who has willingly 
>>>>>>>>> served as
>>>>>>>>> a reference for our Latin American outreach efforts over the past 
>>>>>>>>> year has
>>>>>>>>> patiently been awaiting the ability to capture PPI for nearly a year 
>>>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This was also (just a small part) of the PPI commitment we made
>>>>>>>>> to the 100M Project in 2015
>>>>>>>>> <http://mifos.org/blog/100-million-project-commitment/> and we've
>>>>>>>>> yet to provide a workable solution for users to capture PPIs in Mifos.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can you please make yourself available for a call with Raunak (and
>>>>>>>>> ideally Maulik and Nazeer) to help him get the through blocker once 
>>>>>>>>> and for
>>>>>>>>> all. I know the fix is simple but working through the fix together 
>>>>>>>>> will be
>>>>>>>>> the best usage of effort in the community to complete the valuable 
>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>> you've started for the SPM framework in Apache Fineract - SPM and the 
>>>>>>>>> means
>>>>>>>>> to properly collect these metrics really helps set apart our software 
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> others.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We are also going to have survey collection as part of both the
>>>>>>>>> android and web self-service apps so this is a critical blocker that 
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> must get removed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The full thread is down below and I've tried to bring some other
>>>>>>>>> conversations from five other separate email threads.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Nathan's Request*
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *As a user, I must have ability to view the completed PPI
>>>>>>>>> scorecards along with its calculated score in the web app.*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nathan would also love to know where the score is stored in the DB
>>>>>>>>> so he can do an average and see the PPI results for a group of 
>>>>>>>>> clients and
>>>>>>>>> of each client over time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If the interface could show that too it would be great.
>>>>>>>>> Something like
>>>>>>>>> Client Lincoln X
>>>>>>>>> Date        PPI 1
>>>>>>>>> Date       PPI 2
>>>>>>>>> Date       PPI 3
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Raunak's blocker:*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm a little stuck on retrieving responses. Its proving to be a
>>>>>>>>> little hurdle for me. I tried it maybe I'm doing something wrong. I 
>>>>>>>>> am able
>>>>>>>>> to create surveys but I am unable to retrieve responses for any of 
>>>>>>>>> the new
>>>>>>>>> surveys or even the ppi for philliphines
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Santosh's issue:*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However upon submission, responses don't seem to be linked to the
>>>>>>>>> lookup table as they don't get scored and tabulated and there is no
>>>>>>>>> confirmation that the responses have been captured nor an ability to 
>>>>>>>>> view
>>>>>>>>> the recorded responses. I wanted to identify 1) what is caused by 
>>>>>>>>> Santosh
>>>>>>>>> not having used the uploader 2) which are bugs and 3) which is
>>>>>>>>> functionality that has not been implemented yet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Markus' reply on March 23*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The main issue with the uploader is because the URL for mifos has
>>>>>>>>> changed since incubating at Apache, and not all surrounding tools are
>>>>>>>>> update to reflect this change.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Everything else seems to be an issue with how the client sends the
>>>>>>>>> data.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Nathan McClellan <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>> Any update?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 4:38 PM Nathan McClellan <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the update!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 1:24 PM Raunak Sett <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, we are working on it. We are done with the new survey
>>>>>>>>>>>> creation. We should be done with creation of lookup tables also 
>>>>>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>>>>>> tracking of key metrics within the next week. I am stuck on 
>>>>>>>>>>>> showing the
>>>>>>>>>>>> responses for now. Its a little blocker for me. But I'm sure we'll 
>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>> through it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 7, 2017, 4:02 AM Nathan McClellan <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any progress?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not a developer but anything I can do to help?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:52 AM Nathan McClellan <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes that sounds great.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On #3 please make sure it gives the score in the results. Also
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would love to know where this is stored in the DB so we can do 
>>>>>>>>>>>> an average
>>>>>>>>>>>> and see the PPI results for a group of clients and of each client 
>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>> If the interface could show that too it would be great.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Something like
>>>>>>>>>>>> Client Lincoln X
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date        PPI 1
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date       PPI 2
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date       PPI 3
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 5:22 PM Raunak Sett <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> @Ed Yes I'll be working on this. I am starting with the survey
>>>>>>>>>>>> creation from the community app first after that I'll be working 
>>>>>>>>>>>> on this
>>>>>>>>>>>> ASAP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017, 4:43 AM Ed Cable <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nathan,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to clarify you need the following (1, 2, 3), correct?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Build out the UI for creating survey from available PPI
>>>>>>>>>>>> scorecard
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now we should simply have to run the PPI-uploader tool on
>>>>>>>>>>>> your instance and it will upload the PPIs that have been added as 
>>>>>>>>>>>> XMLs.
>>>>>>>>>>>> This should work fine right now (apart from having to make some 
>>>>>>>>>>>> slight
>>>>>>>>>>>> modifications to the PPI-uploader based on the recent changes to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> resources
>>>>>>>>>>>> with switch to fineract from mifos x.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Capture/record surveys from a given entity in the web app
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is currently available from the UI (you can test it out at
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://demo.openmf.org (mifos/password) by navigating to any
>>>>>>>>>>>> client, clicking more dropdown and then survey. You can then 
>>>>>>>>>>>> select the
>>>>>>>>>>>> survey from the dropdown and enter responses. We do have some work 
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> needs to be done to ensure the lookup tables are being linked to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> scorecards and scores are being properly tabulated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) View recorded surveys from the web app
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This still needs to be built out. @Raunak - is this something
>>>>>>>>>>>> you could take up?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4) Interface to create new surveys from scratch via the UI
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Out of scope for what you need.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Additional Context from Another Email
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> These are the legacy docs on the old question group
>>>>>>>>>>>> functionality:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://mifosforge.jira.com/wiki/display/MIFOS/Question+Groups+and+PPI
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.flossmanuals.net/mifos-user-manual/how-to-add-a-question-group/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So for the UI, we need:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) UI to select an available PPI scorecard for a given country
>>>>>>>>>>>> and then create a survey instance of this (ideally this could
>>>>>>>>>>>> be done at different entities - client, loan)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) UI to record the instance. For example if in step 1 above I
>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted to create a survey instance of the PH PPI at the client
>>>>>>>>>>>> level I now need a button within the client record to record
>>>>>>>>>>>> survey and then display the scorecard
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) UI to view recorded survey. Now that a survey is recorded,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I need to be able to view that recorded survey from the client
>>>>>>>>>>>> record and see the date/time stamp/version. Is the date/version all
>>>>>>>>>>>> recorded in background able to to be displayed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I have some other questions regarding the flexibility of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the surveys/SPM framework and how it relates to data tables.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is the surveys framework only for pre-defined scorecards like
>>>>>>>>>>>> PPI, IRIS, MPAT, UN SDGs, etc? Or is it also to create brand new "
>>>>>>>>>>>> surveys".
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My first question would be this. If I want to create a survey from
>>>>>>>>>>>> scratch (i.e. a completely unique 15-question business plan
>>>>>>>>>>>> survey) should I do this via a Data Table or should I use your
>>>>>>>>>>>> surveys framework. If the latter, should the surveys framework
>>>>>>>>>>>> be used to define a question bank (of multiple question types - 
>>>>>>>>>>>> free-form,
>>>>>>>>>>>> text, multi-select, etc.) and then from this question bank, create 
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> survey (i.e. give it a title, select questions) and then save
>>>>>>>>>>>> as a survey). If this is all possible, I want to work with
>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteers to finalize the wireframes Nayan worked on and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> implement this
>>>>>>>>>>>> survey wizard to create surveys powered by the Surveys
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Framework.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Nathan McClellan <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the update.
>>>>>>>>>>>> How many programing hours do you think are left?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 4:55 PM Ed Cable <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> HI Nathan,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I apologize for the delays on this. I'm still trying to work
>>>>>>>>>>>> with a volunteer to get this work finished up. Sorry that I can't 
>>>>>>>>>>>> expedite
>>>>>>>>>>>> it any further. I'm in touch with Maulik along with Raunak.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Markus replied separately regarding the query I had before:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My first question would be this. If I want to create a survey
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
Markus Geiss
Chief Technology Officer, Kuelap, Inc. <http://kuelap.io/>
+49 1522 9505306

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