Glad that you're back online. Please look at the email from May 12 at the top of this thread. I attempted to summarize the conversations and issues stating back to February.
Ed On Jun 22, 2017 03:42, "Markus Geiss" <[email protected]> wrote: > OK ... I'm back online (; > > Can somebody please explain me what the issues are, so I can start fixing > them? > > Thanks & Cheers > > Markus > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 6:56 PM Markus Geiss <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> ha ha ... it is even worth ... looks like the income landline is broken >> somewhere at the last few inches ... >> >> a technician will come tomorrow and do some tests ... maybe then it is >> solved ... >> >> Cheers >> >> Markus >> >> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 6:54 PM Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> That is really unfortunate - it's like in Nepal where the fiber-optic >>> cable got stolen as soon as it got installed! >>> >>> Please let us know when you get an alternate connection and are ready to >>> look at the code and identify a fix. The interns are standing by and i have >>> another volunteer who is ready to work on the front-end too. >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 7:06 AM, Markus Geiss <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey, >>>> >>>> sadly my internet is not working ... looks like a line is broken ... >>>> and I can't tell how long this will take. >>>> >>>> As long as I don't have a decent internet connection it is nearly >>>> impossible to do some work. >>>> >>>> I'll keep you all posted on the progress. >>>> >>>> Sorry & Cheers >>>> >>>> Markus >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 5:52 PM Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Markus, >>>>> >>>>> Welcome back from from Indonesia! Have you had a chance to look into >>>>> this? >>>>> >>>>> Ed >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Markus Geiss <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I will dedicate early next week to unblock you ... right now I'm >>>>>> trying to keep up with work leftover from the past two week when I was >>>>>> on a >>>>>> business travel. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> Markus >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 6:18 AM Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Markus. I hope dojo is going well and looking forward to >>>>>>> hearing how the trip went. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Safe travels! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 31, 2017 21:09, "Markus Geiss" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm still on a business trip in Indonesia, but I'll be back to my >>>>>>>> office next week. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Once I'm settle I'll reach out to you to sort out the issues and >>>>>>>> help unblocking you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Greez from Jakarta >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Markus >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:00 AM Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Markus, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I wanted to resurface this email to the top of your inbox in case >>>>>>>>> you missed the last one I sent out. Nathan is still patiently >>>>>>>>> awaiting this >>>>>>>>> fix after nearly a year. Raunak is eager to complete the work once we >>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>> get the surveys stored on the back-end. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Not only is it inhibiting one of our important customers in Latin >>>>>>>>> America, it's now a blocker for two of our Google Summer of Code >>>>>>>>> projects - >>>>>>>>> our interns working on the mobile field officer app can't complete the >>>>>>>>> surveys work that Nasim started and our intern working on the mobile >>>>>>>>> self-service app can't add this functionality. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you for taking the time to help address this. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Ed Cable <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Markus, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I know that you are busy with the pilots at Generation 3, but all >>>>>>>>>> of the community resources who have been looking into this are >>>>>>>>>> blocked and >>>>>>>>>> a paying Mifos customer, Mentors International, who has willingly >>>>>>>>>> served as >>>>>>>>>> a reference for our Latin American outreach efforts over the past >>>>>>>>>> year has >>>>>>>>>> patiently been awaiting the ability to capture PPI for nearly a year >>>>>>>>>> now. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This was also (just a small part) of the PPI commitment we made >>>>>>>>>> to the 100M Project in 2015 >>>>>>>>>> <http://mifos.org/blog/100-million-project-commitment/> and >>>>>>>>>> we've yet to provide a workable solution for users to capture PPIs >>>>>>>>>> in Mifos. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Can you please make yourself available for a call with Raunak >>>>>>>>>> (and ideally Maulik and Nazeer) to help him get the through blocker >>>>>>>>>> once >>>>>>>>>> and for all. I know the fix is simple but working through the fix >>>>>>>>>> together >>>>>>>>>> will be the best usage of effort in the community to complete the >>>>>>>>>> valuable >>>>>>>>>> work you've started for the SPM framework in Apache Fineract - SPM >>>>>>>>>> and the >>>>>>>>>> means to properly collect these metrics really helps set apart our >>>>>>>>>> software >>>>>>>>>> from others. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We are also going to have survey collection as part of both the >>>>>>>>>> android and web self-service apps so this is a critical blocker that >>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>> must get removed. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The full thread is down below and I've tried to bring some other >>>>>>>>>> conversations from five other separate email threads. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Nathan's Request* >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *As a user, I must have ability to view the completed PPI >>>>>>>>>> scorecards along with its calculated score in the web app.* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nathan would also love to know where the score is stored in the >>>>>>>>>> DB so he can do an average and see the PPI results for a group of >>>>>>>>>> clients >>>>>>>>>> and of each client over time. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If the interface could show that too it would be great. >>>>>>>>>> Something like >>>>>>>>>> Client Lincoln X >>>>>>>>>> Date PPI 1 >>>>>>>>>> Date PPI 2 >>>>>>>>>> Date PPI 3 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Raunak's blocker:* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm a little stuck on retrieving responses. Its proving to be a >>>>>>>>>> little hurdle for me. I tried it maybe I'm doing something wrong. I >>>>>>>>>> am able >>>>>>>>>> to create surveys but I am unable to retrieve responses for any of >>>>>>>>>> the new >>>>>>>>>> surveys or even the ppi for philliphines >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Santosh's issue:* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> However upon submission, responses don't seem to be linked to the >>>>>>>>>> lookup table as they don't get scored and tabulated and there is no >>>>>>>>>> confirmation that the responses have been captured nor an ability to >>>>>>>>>> view >>>>>>>>>> the recorded responses. I wanted to identify 1) what is caused by >>>>>>>>>> Santosh >>>>>>>>>> not having used the uploader 2) which are bugs and 3) which is >>>>>>>>>> functionality that has not been implemented yet. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Markus' reply on March 23* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The main issue with the uploader is because the URL for mifos has >>>>>>>>>> changed since incubating at Apache, and not all surrounding tools are >>>>>>>>>> update to reflect this change. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Everything else seems to be an issue with how the client sends >>>>>>>>>> the data. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Nathan McClellan < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>>>>>> Any update? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 4:38 PM Nathan McClellan < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the update! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 1:24 PM Raunak Sett < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, we are working on it. We are done with the new survey >>>>>>>>>>>>> creation. We should be done with creation of lookup tables also >>>>>>>>>>>>> for the >>>>>>>>>>>>> tracking of key metrics within the next week. I am stuck on >>>>>>>>>>>>> showing the >>>>>>>>>>>>> responses for now. Its a little blocker for me. But I'm sure >>>>>>>>>>>>> we'll get >>>>>>>>>>>>> through it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 7, 2017, 4:02 AM Nathan McClellan < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all! >>>>>>>>>>>>> Any progress? >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not a developer but anything I can do to help? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:52 AM Nathan McClellan < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes that sounds great. >>>>>>>>>>>>> On #3 please make sure it gives the score in the results. Also >>>>>>>>>>>>> I would love to know where this is stored in the DB so we can do >>>>>>>>>>>>> an average >>>>>>>>>>>>> and see the PPI results for a group of clients and of each client >>>>>>>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>>>>>>> time. >>>>>>>>>>>>> If the interface could show that too it would be great. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Something like >>>>>>>>>>>>> Client Lincoln X >>>>>>>>>>>>> Date PPI 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Date PPI 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Date PPI 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 5:22 PM Raunak Sett < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> @Ed Yes I'll be working on this. I am starting with the survey >>>>>>>>>>>>> creation from the community app first after that I'll be working >>>>>>>>>>>>> on this >>>>>>>>>>>>> ASAP. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017, 4:43 AM Ed Cable <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nathan, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to clarify you need the following (1, 2, 3), correct? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Build out the UI for creating survey from available PPI >>>>>>>>>>>>> scorecard >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now we should simply have to run the PPI-uploader tool >>>>>>>>>>>>> on your instance and it will upload the PPIs that have been added >>>>>>>>>>>>> as XMLs. >>>>>>>>>>>>> This should work fine right now (apart from having to make some >>>>>>>>>>>>> slight >>>>>>>>>>>>> modifications to the PPI-uploader based on the recent changes to >>>>>>>>>>>>> resources >>>>>>>>>>>>> with switch to fineract from mifos x. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Capture/record surveys from a given entity in the web app >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is currently available from the UI (you can test it out >>>>>>>>>>>>> at https://demo.openmf.org (mifos/password) by navigating to >>>>>>>>>>>>> any client, clicking more dropdown and then survey. You can then >>>>>>>>>>>>> select the >>>>>>>>>>>>> survey from the dropdown and enter responses. We do have some >>>>>>>>>>>>> work that >>>>>>>>>>>>> needs to be done to ensure the lookup tables are being linked to >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> scorecards and scores are being properly tabulated. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) View recorded surveys from the web app >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This still needs to be built out. @Raunak - is this something >>>>>>>>>>>>> you could take up? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4) Interface to create new surveys from scratch via the UI >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Out of scope for what you need. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Additional Context from Another Email >>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> These are the legacy docs on the old question group >>>>>>>>>>>>> functionality: https://mifosforge.jira.com/wiki/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> display/MIFOS/Question+Groups+and+PPI >>>>>>>>>>>>> and http://www.flossmanuals.net/mifos-user-manual/how-to- >>>>>>>>>>>>> add-a-question-group/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So for the UI, we need: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) UI to select an available PPI scorecard for a given >>>>>>>>>>>>> country and then create a survey instance of this (ideally >>>>>>>>>>>>> this could be done at different entities - client, loan) >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) UI to record the instance. For example if in step 1 above >>>>>>>>>>>>> I wanted to create a survey instance of the PH PPI at the >>>>>>>>>>>>> client level I now need a button within the client record to >>>>>>>>>>>>> record >>>>>>>>>>>>> survey and then display the scorecard >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) UI to view recorded survey. Now that a survey is recorded, >>>>>>>>>>>>> I need to be able to view that recorded survey from the >>>>>>>>>>>>> client record and see the date/time stamp/version. Is the >>>>>>>>>>>>> date/version all >>>>>>>>>>>>> recorded in background able to to be displayed. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I have some other questions regarding the flexibility of >>>>>>>>>>>>> the surveys/SPM framework and how it relates to data tables. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Is the surveys framework only for pre-defined scorecards like >>>>>>>>>>>>> PPI, IRIS, MPAT, UN SDGs, etc? Or is it also to create brand new " >>>>>>>>>>>>> surveys". >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> My first question would be this. If I want to create a survey from >>>>>>>>>>>>> scratch (i.e. a completely unique 15-question business plan >>>>>>>>>>>>> survey) should I do this via a Data Table or should I use >>>>>>>>>>>>> your surveys framework. If the latter, should the surveys >>>>>>>>>>>>> framework >>>>>>>>>>>>> be used to define a question bank (of multiple question types - >>>>>>>>>>>>> free-form, >>>>>>>>>>>>> text, multi-select, etc.) and then from this question bank, >>>>>>>>>>>>> create a >>>>>>>>>>>>> survey (i.e. give it a title, select questions) and then save >>>>>>>>>>>>> as a survey). If this is all possible, I want to work with >>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteers to finalize the wireframes Nayan worked on and >>>>>>>>>>>>> implement this >>>>>>>>>>>>> survey wizard to create surveys powered by the Surveys >>>>>>>>>>>>> Framework. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Nathan McClellan < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the update. >>>>>>>>>>>>> How many programing hours do you think are left? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 4:55 PM Ed Cable <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> HI Nathan, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I apologize for the delays on this. I'm still trying to work >>>>>>>>>>>>> with a volunteer to get this work finished up. Sorry that I can't >>>>>>>>>>>>> expedite >>>>>>>>>>>>> it any further. I'm in touch with Maulik along with Raunak. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Markus replied separately regarding the query I had before: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
