Hello All,

We could make a poll with 3 items:

1) Ask  Early users to test and give feedback on Undo/Redo feature in
nightly build
2) Make a poll on the "Template" icon ? I agree with you and I think sebb
had raised this when initially icon was a wizard. My concern is that
current icon may not be clear or "known" in other applications, so I wonder
if new user or even usual user have the idea of using it
3) Make a poll (As sebb proposed in another thread) on the need to add a
user property for bugzilla 54778, to allow users to revert to < 2.12
behaviour. My opinion based on previous versions behaviour is that we
should introduce this , asking community may be confusing


Regards
Philippe


On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Milamber <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Le 31/08/2014 13:22, Philippe Mouawad a ecrit :
> > Hello,
> > I wonder if the current icon for Templates is the right one.
> >
> > The first icon which was a kind of wizard seems to me maybe a better
> option
> > even if it's not really a wizard.
> > The current icon is kind of "unknown" in the mind of users I think which
> > does not encourage its usage.
> >
> > Thoughts ?
>
> No problem for me for change icon, but the Wizard icon seems introduce
> some confusion to the users (the template box is just 1 box, not several
> steps to construct a test plan like a "wizard" in a software).
> Perhaps ask on user mailing list (make a poll to choice the best icon?)
>
>
>
> >
> > Regards
> > Philippe
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Milamber <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Le 13/07/2013 22:15, sebb a ecrit :
> >>
> >>  On 13 July 2013 22:32, Milamber <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> Le 13/07/2013 20:58, sebb a ecrit :
> >>>>
> >>>>> +1, but I think it should be after Open;
> >>>>>
> >>>> Sincerely, I prefer the template icon after New icon. It's more
> >>>> user-friendly in my mind. New=>New test plan from scratch,
> Template=>New
> >>>> test(or merge) to help end / beginner user, Open=>Open a test plan
> that I
> >>>> create (I'm pass the first steps to use JMeter).
> >>>>
> >>>>  Unless there are plenty of templates for the user, they will likely
> >>> ignore the Template button very quickly..
> >>>
> >> The Template behavior is a new functionality of JMeter, I can't know if
> we
> >> will have a plenty of templates (I hope this).
> >> I would like commit with "New|Template|Open" in toolbar. If in future,
> the
> >> users brings some misunderstand on this order/toolbar, we can change
> easily
> >> the order.
> >>
> >>
> >> Milamber
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>  and we need to drop the New
> >>>>> icon (Bug 55258) - so it will still be second.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 13 July 2013 19:37, Philippe Mouawad <[email protected]>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> +1 for app office
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Saturday, July 13, 2013, Milamber wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  Le 13/07/2013 16:29, sebb a ecrit :
> >>>>>>>  On 13 July 2013 17:05, Milamber <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>  Le 12/07/2013 14:10, sebb a ecrit :
> >>>>>>>>>    On 12 July 2013 09:07, Milamber <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>>>>>> I thinks the new ability of Templates can have a dedicated
> button
> >>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>> Toolbar.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>  Agreed.
> >>>>>>>>>>    I saw the Open Icon Library [1] to find a icon to this action
> >>>>>>>>>> (with
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> license
> >>>>>>>>>>> CC-BT-SA 3.0).
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>  CC-BY-SA
> >>>>>>>>>>    I found two icons (the same but with two different colors),
> >>>>>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>>> is a
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> magic
> >>>>>>>>>>> wand. In the sense of "magician".
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>  Not sure the Template system is anything like a Wizard in the
> >>>>>>>>>> normal
> >>>>>>>>>> computing sense.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I think it's misleading to use a wand here.
> >>>>>>>>>> Basically it's a selection from a list.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  I've update with other icon (CC-BY-SA) :
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.milamberspace.net/**toolbar-template/<http://www.
> >>>>>>>>> milamberspace.net/toolbar-template/>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The open icon library provide great icons, but it's very
> difficult
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> find a
> >>>>>>>>> good icon with the good license for the "templates" bahavior.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>  Yes, indeed.
> >>>>>>>> What about one of the following?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://openiconlibrary.**sourceforge.net/gallery2/?./**
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Icons/categories/applications-**office.png<http://
> >>>>>>>> openiconlibrary.sourceforge.net/gallery2/?./Icons/
> >>>>>>>> categories/applications-office.png>
> >>>>>>>> http://openiconlibrary.**sourceforge.net/gallery2/?./**
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Icons/actions/archive-insert-**3.png<http://openiconlibrary.
> >>>>>>>> sourceforge.net/gallery2/?./Icons/actions/archive-insert-3.png>
> >>>>>>>> http://openiconlibrary.**sourceforge.net/gallery2/?./**
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Icons/actions/document-import-**2.pngve<http://
> >>>>>>>> openiconlibrary.sourceforge.net/gallery2/?./Icons/actions/
> >>>>>>>> document-import-2.pngve>update
> >>>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  I've update the page:
> >>>>>>> http://www.milamberspace.net/**toolbar-template/<http://www.
> >>>>>>> milamberspace.net/toolbar-template/>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The application-office icon seems very good ? +1 for me at this
> >>>>>>> position.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>     You can see the render here and 2 proposal of position in the
> >>>>>>>>> toolbar:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.milamberspace.net/**toolbar-template/<http://www.
> >>>>>>>>>>> milamberspace.net/toolbar-template/>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>    I think any icon belongs either just before or just after
> >>>>>>>>>>> "Open",
> >>>>>>>>>>> i.e.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> New, Template, Open
> >>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>> New, Open, Template
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> It does not seem logical to have it between Save Selection and
> Cut.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>    What is your opinion? need to find a new icon? the best
> >>>>>>>>>> position/color?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Milamber
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://openiconlibrary.**sourceforge.net/gallery2/?./<http:/
> >>>>>>>>>>> /openiconlibrary.sourceforge.net/gallery2/?./>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>  --
> >>>>>> Cordialement.
> >>>>>> Philippe Mouawad.
> >>>>>>
> >
>
>


-- 
Cordialement.
Philippe Mouawad.

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