On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 2:33 PM, sebb <[email protected]> wrote: > On 6 September 2014 22:44, Philippe Mouawad <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > We could make a poll with 3 items: > > [This should have been a new thread, and all these should be separate > user threads] > > > 1) Ask Early users to test and give feedback on Undo/Redo feature in > > nightly build > > +1 >
Let me just finish the Toolbar enabling/disabling > > > 2) Make a poll on the "Template" icon ? I agree with you and I think sebb > > had raised this when initially icon was a wizard. My concern is that > > current icon may not be clear or "known" in other applications, so I > wonder > > if new user or even usual user have the idea of using it > > Perhaps see if we could use the Templates icon from OpenOffice? > This looks like a piece of paper with a star in the top left corner. > > Here's a screenshot: > > http://people.apache.org/~sebb/JMeter/Templates.png > Nice one > > I don't think we necessarily need a poll on this, so long as we all > agree that the new icon is better. > > > 3) Make a poll (As sebb proposed in another thread) on the need to add a > > user property for bugzilla 54778, to allow users to revert to < 2.12 > > behaviour. My opinion based on previous versions behaviour is that we > > should introduce this , asking community may be confusing > > If they are confused by the choice, won't they be confused by the > change in behaviour? > > It will depend on how the information is presented. > What about this: When using Cache Manager in JMeter. If a resource is found in cache then: - Up to version 2.11, no request hits the server and a 204 response code with empty content was returned as a SampleResult - Starting from 2.12, no request hits the server, but no more SampleResult will be created (this is inline with what browser do) This change will affect: - the number of Samples in results - the average, median response time reported We propose 2 options to handle this: (1) Add the possibility through a JMeter property to revert back to <= 2.11 behaviour (2) No JMeter property to revert back to <= 2.11 behaviour Please vote depending on what would be better for you. Or maybe we could use a doodle ? > > > > Regards > > Philippe > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Milamber <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> > >> Le 31/08/2014 13:22, Philippe Mouawad a ecrit : > >> > Hello, > >> > I wonder if the current icon for Templates is the right one. > >> > > >> > The first icon which was a kind of wizard seems to me maybe a better > >> option > >> > even if it's not really a wizard. > >> > The current icon is kind of "unknown" in the mind of users I think > which > >> > does not encourage its usage. > >> > > >> > Thoughts ? > >> > >> No problem for me for change icon, but the Wizard icon seems introduce > >> some confusion to the users (the template box is just 1 box, not several > >> steps to construct a test plan like a "wizard" in a software). > >> Perhaps ask on user mailing list (make a poll to choice the best icon?) > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > Regards > >> > Philippe > >> > > >> > > >> > On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Milamber <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> Le 13/07/2013 22:15, sebb a ecrit : > >> >> > >> >> On 13 July 2013 22:32, Milamber <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >>>> Le 13/07/2013 20:58, sebb a ecrit : > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> +1, but I think it should be after Open; > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> Sincerely, I prefer the template icon after New icon. It's more > >> >>>> user-friendly in my mind. New=>New test plan from scratch, > >> Template=>New > >> >>>> test(or merge) to help end / beginner user, Open=>Open a test plan > >> that I > >> >>>> create (I'm pass the first steps to use JMeter). > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Unless there are plenty of templates for the user, they will > likely > >> >>> ignore the Template button very quickly.. > >> >>> > >> >> The Template behavior is a new functionality of JMeter, I can't know > if > >> we > >> >> will have a plenty of templates (I hope this). > >> >> I would like commit with "New|Template|Open" in toolbar. If in > future, > >> the > >> >> users brings some misunderstand on this order/toolbar, we can change > >> easily > >> >> the order. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Milamber > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>> and we need to drop the New > >> >>>>> icon (Bug 55258) - so it will still be second. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> On 13 July 2013 19:37, Philippe Mouawad < > [email protected]> > >> >>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>> +1 for app office > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> On Saturday, July 13, 2013, Milamber wrote: > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Le 13/07/2013 16:29, sebb a ecrit : > >> >>>>>>> On 13 July 2013 17:05, Milamber <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>> Le 12/07/2013 14:10, sebb a ecrit : > >> >>>>>>>>> On 12 July 2013 09:07, Milamber <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Hello, > >> >>>>>>>>>>> I thinks the new ability of Templates can have a dedicated > >> button > >> >>>>>>>>>>> in > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Toolbar. > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. > >> >>>>>>>>>> I saw the Open Icon Library [1] to find a icon to this > action > >> >>>>>>>>>> (with > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> license > >> >>>>>>>>>>> CC-BT-SA 3.0). > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> CC-BY-SA > >> >>>>>>>>>> I found two icons (the same but with two different > colors), > >> >>>>>>>>>> which > >> >>>>>>>>>> is a > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> magic > >> >>>>>>>>>>> wand. In the sense of "magician". > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Not sure the Template system is anything like a Wizard in > the > >> >>>>>>>>>> normal > >> >>>>>>>>>> computing sense. > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> I think it's misleading to use a wand here. > >> >>>>>>>>>> Basically it's a selection from a list. > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> I've update with other icon (CC-BY-SA) : > >> >>>>>>>>> http://www.milamberspace.net/**toolbar-template/<http://www. > >> >>>>>>>>> milamberspace.net/toolbar-template/> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> The open icon library provide great icons, but it's very > >> difficult > >> >>>>>>>>> to > >> >>>>>>>>> find a > >> >>>>>>>>> good icon with the good license for the "templates" bahavior. > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Yes, indeed. > >> >>>>>>>> What about one of the following? > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> http://openiconlibrary.**sourceforge.net/gallery2/?./** > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> Icons/categories/applications-**office.png<http:// > >> >>>>>>>> openiconlibrary.sourceforge.net/gallery2/?./Icons/ > >> >>>>>>>> categories/applications-office.png> > >> >>>>>>>> http://openiconlibrary.**sourceforge.net/gallery2/?./** > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> Icons/actions/archive-insert-**3.png<http://openiconlibrary. > >> >>>>>>>> sourceforge.net/gallery2/?./Icons/actions/archive-insert-3.png > > > >> >>>>>>>> http://openiconlibrary.**sourceforge.net/gallery2/?./** > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> Icons/actions/document-import-**2.pngve<http:// > >> >>>>>>>> openiconlibrary.sourceforge.net/gallery2/?./Icons/actions/ > >> >>>>>>>> document-import-2.pngve>update > >> >>>>>>>> : > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> I've update the page: > >> >>>>>>> http://www.milamberspace.net/**toolbar-template/<http://www. > >> >>>>>>> milamberspace.net/toolbar-template/> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> The application-office icon seems very good ? +1 for me at this > >> >>>>>>> position. > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> You can see the render here and 2 proposal of position in > the > >> >>>>>>>>> toolbar: > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.milamberspace.net/**toolbar-template/<http://www > . > >> >>>>>>>>>>> milamberspace.net/toolbar-template/> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> I think any icon belongs either just before or just after > >> >>>>>>>>>>> "Open", > >> >>>>>>>>>>> i.e. > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> New, Template, Open > >> >>>>>>>>>> or > >> >>>>>>>>>> New, Open, Template > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> It does not seem logical to have it between Save Selection > and > >> Cut. > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> What is your opinion? need to find a new icon? the best > >> >>>>>>>>>> position/color? > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Milamber > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> [1] > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://openiconlibrary.**sourceforge.net/gallery2/?./ > <http:/ > >> >>>>>>>>>>> /openiconlibrary.sourceforge.net/gallery2/?./> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> -- > >> >>>>>> Cordialement. > >> >>>>>> Philippe Mouawad. > >> >>>>>> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Cordialement. > > Philippe Mouawad. > -- Cordialement. Philippe Mouawad.
