On 6 September 2014 22:44, Philippe Mouawad <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello All, > > We could make a poll with 3 items:
[This should have been a new thread, and all these should be separate user threads] > 1) Ask Early users to test and give feedback on Undo/Redo feature in > nightly build +1 > 2) Make a poll on the "Template" icon ? I agree with you and I think sebb > had raised this when initially icon was a wizard. My concern is that > current icon may not be clear or "known" in other applications, so I wonder > if new user or even usual user have the idea of using it Perhaps see if we could use the Templates icon from OpenOffice? This looks like a piece of paper with a star in the top left corner. Here's a screenshot: http://people.apache.org/~sebb/JMeter/Templates.png I don't think we necessarily need a poll on this, so long as we all agree that the new icon is better. > 3) Make a poll (As sebb proposed in another thread) on the need to add a > user property for bugzilla 54778, to allow users to revert to < 2.12 > behaviour. My opinion based on previous versions behaviour is that we > should introduce this , asking community may be confusing If they are confused by the choice, won't they be confused by the change in behaviour? It will depend on how the information is presented. > > Regards > Philippe > > > On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Milamber <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Le 31/08/2014 13:22, Philippe Mouawad a ecrit : >> > Hello, >> > I wonder if the current icon for Templates is the right one. >> > >> > The first icon which was a kind of wizard seems to me maybe a better >> option >> > even if it's not really a wizard. >> > The current icon is kind of "unknown" in the mind of users I think which >> > does not encourage its usage. >> > >> > Thoughts ? >> >> No problem for me for change icon, but the Wizard icon seems introduce >> some confusion to the users (the template box is just 1 box, not several >> steps to construct a test plan like a "wizard" in a software). >> Perhaps ask on user mailing list (make a poll to choice the best icon?) >> >> >> >> > >> > Regards >> > Philippe >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Milamber <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> Le 13/07/2013 22:15, sebb a ecrit : >> >> >> >> On 13 July 2013 22:32, Milamber <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> Le 13/07/2013 20:58, sebb a ecrit : >> >>>> >> >>>>> +1, but I think it should be after Open; >> >>>>> >> >>>> Sincerely, I prefer the template icon after New icon. It's more >> >>>> user-friendly in my mind. New=>New test plan from scratch, >> Template=>New >> >>>> test(or merge) to help end / beginner user, Open=>Open a test plan >> that I >> >>>> create (I'm pass the first steps to use JMeter). >> >>>> >> >>>> Unless there are plenty of templates for the user, they will likely >> >>> ignore the Template button very quickly.. >> >>> >> >> The Template behavior is a new functionality of JMeter, I can't know if >> we >> >> will have a plenty of templates (I hope this). >> >> I would like commit with "New|Template|Open" in toolbar. If in future, >> the >> >> users brings some misunderstand on this order/toolbar, we can change >> easily >> >> the order. >> >> >> >> >> >> Milamber >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> and we need to drop the New >> >>>>> icon (Bug 55258) - so it will still be second. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On 13 July 2013 19:37, Philippe Mouawad <[email protected]> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> +1 for app office >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Saturday, July 13, 2013, Milamber wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Le 13/07/2013 16:29, sebb a ecrit : >> >>>>>>> On 13 July 2013 17:05, Milamber <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> Le 12/07/2013 14:10, sebb a ecrit : >> >>>>>>>>> On 12 July 2013 09:07, Milamber <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Hello, >> >>>>>>>>>>> I thinks the new ability of Templates can have a dedicated >> button >> >>>>>>>>>>> in >> >>>>>>>>>>> Toolbar. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. >> >>>>>>>>>> I saw the Open Icon Library [1] to find a icon to this action >> >>>>>>>>>> (with >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> license >> >>>>>>>>>>> CC-BT-SA 3.0). >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> CC-BY-SA >> >>>>>>>>>> I found two icons (the same but with two different colors), >> >>>>>>>>>> which >> >>>>>>>>>> is a >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> magic >> >>>>>>>>>>> wand. In the sense of "magician". >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Not sure the Template system is anything like a Wizard in the >> >>>>>>>>>> normal >> >>>>>>>>>> computing sense. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I think it's misleading to use a wand here. >> >>>>>>>>>> Basically it's a selection from a list. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I've update with other icon (CC-BY-SA) : >> >>>>>>>>> http://www.milamberspace.net/**toolbar-template/<http://www. >> >>>>>>>>> milamberspace.net/toolbar-template/> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> The open icon library provide great icons, but it's very >> difficult >> >>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>> find a >> >>>>>>>>> good icon with the good license for the "templates" bahavior. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Yes, indeed. >> >>>>>>>> What about one of the following? >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> http://openiconlibrary.**sourceforge.net/gallery2/?./** >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Icons/categories/applications-**office.png<http:// >> >>>>>>>> openiconlibrary.sourceforge.net/gallery2/?./Icons/ >> >>>>>>>> categories/applications-office.png> >> >>>>>>>> http://openiconlibrary.**sourceforge.net/gallery2/?./** >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Icons/actions/archive-insert-**3.png<http://openiconlibrary. >> >>>>>>>> sourceforge.net/gallery2/?./Icons/actions/archive-insert-3.png> >> >>>>>>>> http://openiconlibrary.**sourceforge.net/gallery2/?./** >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Icons/actions/document-import-**2.pngve<http:// >> >>>>>>>> openiconlibrary.sourceforge.net/gallery2/?./Icons/actions/ >> >>>>>>>> document-import-2.pngve>update >> >>>>>>>> : >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I've update the page: >> >>>>>>> http://www.milamberspace.net/**toolbar-template/<http://www. >> >>>>>>> milamberspace.net/toolbar-template/> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> The application-office icon seems very good ? +1 for me at this >> >>>>>>> position. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> You can see the render here and 2 proposal of position in the >> >>>>>>>>> toolbar: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.milamberspace.net/**toolbar-template/<http://www. >> >>>>>>>>>>> milamberspace.net/toolbar-template/> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I think any icon belongs either just before or just after >> >>>>>>>>>>> "Open", >> >>>>>>>>>>> i.e. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> New, Template, Open >> >>>>>>>>>> or >> >>>>>>>>>> New, Open, Template >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> It does not seem logical to have it between Save Selection and >> Cut. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> What is your opinion? need to find a new icon? the best >> >>>>>>>>>> position/color? >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Milamber >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> [1] >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://openiconlibrary.**sourceforge.net/gallery2/?./<http:/ >> >>>>>>>>>>> /openiconlibrary.sourceforge.net/gallery2/?./> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> Cordialement. >> >>>>>> Philippe Mouawad. >> >>>>>> >> > >> >> > > > -- > Cordialement. > Philippe Mouawad.
