On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 02:31:07 +0200 Stéphane Desneux
<[email protected]> said:

> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 17:29:23 +0200 Stéphane Desneux
> > <[email protected]>  said:
> >
> >> Well... Initially, I had to re-introduce enlightenment because of X11
> >> :-) For wayland versions, we have weston.
> >
> > enlightenment is also a wayland compositor... fyi. :) it provides a pretty
> > much fuller desktop than weston does (weston is more complete in wl protocol
> > support).
> >
> 
> Honestly, I don't want to restart the compositors war :-)
> 
> e18 under wayland is out of scope right now for Tizen.
> 
> The immediate demand is to have Tizen:Common on ARM/X11, and I don't see much 
> choices for the window manager. Maybe e16 would be a good candidate after
> all: check my home desktop and you'll understand: 
> http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=37f5d0a :)
> 
> I'd prefer to offer some choices to people:
> - enlightenment or weston for wayland environment (in 2 different images of 
> T:Common) - weston mandatory here, e18 as a bonus
> - same enlightenment version for X11 (no other choice here!)
> 
> It may help to compare how things were done in e18 and weston from the
> wayland protocol POV. Also, some things may work with one and fail with the
> other, which could also help to debug things, and finally fix them the right
> way.
> 
> But first, we need a (nice) desktop for X11. Let's run e18 on xorg 1.16 !

as i said- if you are going to use e18 - just use e git master. it is in BETTER
shape than e18.

> >> But anyway. I'll check with Manuel Bachmann (Tarnyko) and we may test
> >> both options.
> >>
> >> Thx !
> >> --
> >> Stéphane Desneux
> >> Intel OTC - Vannes/FR
> >> gpg:1CA35726/DFA9B0232EF80493AF2891FA24E3A2841CA35726
> >>
> >> On 30/07/2014 16:51, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 23:20:16 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> >>> <[email protected]>  said:
> >>>
> >>> on more reflection... tizen common has no hope of dealing with tizen
> >>> mobile as it stands without lots of work... so maybe it might be best to
> >>> go to master - you'll get code in a much better state for wayland
> >>> support. :)
> >>>
> >>>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:36:39 +0200 Stéphane Desneux
> >>>> <[email protected]>  said:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Carsten,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is Enlightenment 0.18.7 a better candidate ?
> >>>>
> >>>> no. e17. as of e18 compositor is no longer a module. this totally kills
> >>>> the compositor module fork of e's original compositor that was done for
> >>>> e17 and tizen 2.x - this needs a re-do/design. this also changes how
> >>>> clients/borders are handled api-wise.
> >>>>
> >>>>> It's not the latest one but it's far more recent than the 0.17.4 on
> >>>>> tizen git. We took this version because it was quite aligned with EFL
> >>>>> 1.9.3 which is the current EFL version on Tizen:Common.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> With these details, is it still a bad idea ? :)
> >>>>
> >>>> only if you want to break tizen mobile entirely (as a mobile style ui -
> >>>> apps will still display - just in windows) - then sure. go for it. then
> >>>> also remove all the custom samsung e profile packages and config and go
> >>>> back to vanilla enlightenment - then no problems. :) you definitely then
> >>>> want to nuke the tizen elementary theme too and go back to vanilla as
> >>>> well. :) if you do this then may as well go for git master. :)
> >>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Stéphane Desneux
> >>>>> Intel OTC - Vannes/FR
> >>>>> gpg:1CA35726/DFA9B0232EF80493AF2891FA24E3A2841CA35726
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 30/07/2014 14:37, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> >>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 12:35:39 +0200 Stéphane Desneux
> >>>>>> <[email protected]>  said:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> bumping to enlightenment upstream is going to be... bad at this stage.
> >>>>>> hold on that for the time-being.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Boram,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I updated our project with the 4 packages you updated.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 1 new error occured, on xf86-video-intel (which is not up to date
> >>>>>>> probably).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Also, what happens for these remaining packages:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://github.com/Tarnyko/enlightenment.git     tizen
> >>>>>>> https://github.com/Tarnyko/xf86-video-intel.git  tizen
> >>>>>>> https://github.com/Tarnyko/glproto.git
> >>>>>>> 5903b304417886de32ad620ff8874998ddee4254
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think we should still bump them all. Your opinion ?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Stéphane Desneux
> >>>>>>> Intel OTC - Vannes/FR
> >>>>>>> gpg:1CA35726/DFA9B0232EF80493AF2891FA24E3A2841CA35726
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 29/07/2014 14:49, Boram Park wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hello Stephane
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Today, I upgraded below 4 git repos to rebase xorg-server to 1.16.
> >>>>>>>> All patches are pushed in "devel/x11" branch.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    platform/upstream/xorg-server
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    platform/upstream/xproto
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    platform/upstream/fontsproto
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    platform/upstream/libXfont
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Please check wethere there are any issues in your side. If no issue,
> >>>>>>>> I'll send SRs together when I send SRs of x11 integration work.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Boram
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ------- *Original Message* -------
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> *Sender* : Stéphane Desneux<[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> *Date* : 2014-07-29 16:46 (GMT+09:00)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> *Title* : Re: [Dev] Common/X11 schedule
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Boram,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> No problem for patches. Merging into tizen branch makes just things
> >>>>>>>> easier (we can compare project manifests, submit diffs etc. easily)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> FYI: to submit multiple packages at the same time on Tizen:Common,
> >>>>>>>> please use 'group submissions'.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> See: §3.1.2 on
> >>>>>>>> https://source.tizen.org/documentation/developer-guide/getting-started-guide/contributing-code-tizen
> >>>>>>>> for guidelines
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This way, all 'related' packages that depend on each other will
> >>>>>>>> rebuild as a whole. If the result is ok (seen in prerelease
> >>>>>>>> project), I can accept the submission and bump all packages in the
> >>>>>>>> main project.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Stéphane Desneux
> >>>>>>>> Intel OTC - Vannes/FR
> >>>>>>>> gpg:1CA35726/DFA9B0232EF80493AF2891FA24E3A2841CA35726
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 29/07/2014 08:39, Boram Park wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Hello José and Stephane.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> [just go to the branch tizen, how?]
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I didn't merge devel/x11 to tizen branch. just created new patch for
> >>>>>>>>> tizen branch.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It seems to make you confused. Actually both branches have exactly
> >>>>>>>>> same patch.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> BTW, I'll merge devel/x11 to tizen branch.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And, I didn't send SRs yet.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I concern that my SRs can be rejected by the maintainer of
> >>>>>>>>> Tizen:Common project. my SR will be able to be failed to build
> >>>>>>>>> without other my SRs becuase of build dependency.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> So far I saw many reject message becuase of build fail. So we are
> >>>>>>>>> going to send SRs after fixing all build-errors in staging project
> >>>>>>>>> and merging all our work to tizen branch.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Anyway our all patches have been merged to tizen branch
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> [Diverging that have to be merged]
> >>>>>>>>> [Diverging, to be checked]
> >>>>>>>>> [Only of our side]
> >>>>>>>>> [Crosswalk compiled without scim]
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Above 4 entries seems OK. And gl issue of arm-x11 repo is solved
> >>>>>>>>> when I take your patch for SDL and mesa. Thx.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Boram
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ------- *Original Message* -------
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> *Sender* : Jos� Bollo
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> *Date* : 2014-07-26 01:23 (GMT+09:00)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> *Title* : Re: Re: [Dev] Common/X11 schedule
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Please find here the real final report
> >>>>>>>>> BR
> >>>>>>>>> josé
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On ven, 2014-07-25 at 18:22 +0200, José Bollo wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Hello Boram,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I just finished the report (see joined).
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> You will find this entries:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> [nothing to do, already at the good revision]
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The branch tizen is already at the good revision for x11 that is
> >>>>>>>>>> already accepted by OBS since long time.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> [just go to the branch tizen, how?]
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The branch tizen is already at the good revision for x11 but was
> >>>>>>>>>> never accepted nor submitted, there is a workflow problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> [Diverging that have to be merged]
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> mesa
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> [Diverging, to be checked]
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> SDL
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> [Only of our side]
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> libva
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> [Crosswalk compiled without scim]
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> crosswalk.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> [Bumped on github for upgrading xserver]
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> An effort for upgrading xorg-server to 1.15.99.
> >>>>>>>>>> Part of it may be used for bumping to xorg-server 1.16
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Please check with Stephane for further work because I leaving this
> >>>>>>>>>> evening for few weeks.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Best regards
> >>>>>>>>>> José
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Boram Park
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Senior engineer
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO.,LTD
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> E-Mail : [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Boram Park
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Senior engineer
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO.,LTD
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> E-Mail : [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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> >>>>
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