improved the automatic summary http://people.apache.org/~hboutemy/codehaus/summary.html
I suppose the next step will be to create a csv to be able to work on figures with a spreadsheet I have no time at the moment, will try tomorrow if nobody beats me Regards, Hervé Le dimanche 7 septembre 2014 15:01:58 Benson Margulies a écrit : > On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Kristian Rosenvold < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > But I still assume we need to get some kind of idea of how good is > > good enough. At some point there's going to be a significant > > contributor we won't be able to get hold of. We might be able to work > > around this by removing code or similar, but I don't think there is > > any point in starting a massive search for people if 100% is the only > > permitted result. > > > > Is there any way we could get some idea of what kind of requirement > > we'd be facing ? Can we acceptably simply delete contributions from > > people we can't get hold of (that may work in some cases) ? We > > usually operate on a "200 line" quota for requiring a CLA; can we > > disregard people with smaller contributions ? (And if so, would that > > be *total* 200 lines or "per submission" ...?) > > Yes, you can open a JIRA at LEGAL, and/or communicate with the board. I > recommend completing the survey first. No one there likes to answer > hypothetical questions; having an actual set of facts will grossly improve > the conversation. > > > Kristian > > > > 2014-09-07 1:01 GMT+02:00 Jason van Zyl <[email protected]>: > > > Cool, with your tool can you aggregate that into a single list of > > > > userIds/Names and then remove us. > > > > > I recognize most of the non-us and with that list we can contact them > > > > all at once if we want. > > > > > On Sep 6, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> here are more accurate statistics: > > >> http://people.apache.org/~hboutemy/codehaus > > >> > > >> Le samedi 6 septembre 2014 09:39:20 Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit : > > >>> I satrted to write down the count of contributors done by github, with > > > > link, > > > > >>> on > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Plexus+dependencies > > > > >>> I'm not sure figures are relevant: > > >>> - missing contributions? it seems so, I looked at plexus-velocity and > > > > older > > > > >>> commits are not counted... > > >>> - every contribution has to be taken into account? > > >>> > > >>> we'll probably need to do more manual work: will need to dispatch > > > > components > > > > >>> to avoid one to do the work for everything > > >>> > > >>> then we'll need to figure out the process details: I read > > >>> http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html, I suppose I'll > > > > have as > > > > >>> Maven Chair some work to do (any help from other members appreciated), > > > > but I > > > > >>> still don't understand precisely > > >>> i will need some explanations from people with experience, probably on > > > > IRC > > > > >>> wil be more efficient > > >>> > > >>> Regards, > > >>> > > >>> Hervé > > >>> > > >>> Le jeudi 4 septembre 2014 23:18:14 Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit : > > >>>> ok, so how do we do the next step? > > >>>> > > >>>> Regards, > > >>>> > > >>>> Hervé > > >>>> > > >>>> Le jeudi 4 septembre 2014 06:49:02 Kristian Rosenvold a écrit : > > >>>>> I had a look through a few projects, and it would seem to me like > > >>>>> "know" 90% of the committers because they are all associated with > > >>>>> maven, most of them are also active. There's a further 5 or so > > >>>>> committers that are well known community folks that we could > > >>>>> probably > > >>>>> get hold of easily. It would appear to me this group is 95% or so of > > >>>>> the commits. There's a handful of names I am unsure if we'll be able > > >>>>> to locate, the contributions I've seen from these names are small. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I think it all amounts to something like this: > > >>>>> For quite a few of the plexus repos we have close to 100% of the > > >>>>> committers as currently active maven community members. > > >>>>> For yet another bunch of projects we have one or two significant > > >>>>> non-maven contributors that we may be able to get hold of. > > >>>>> For plexus-utils the list is a bit longer, but there's a lot of > > >>>>> smaller contributions that'd normally go below the CLA radar. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I suppose we'd need to get some kind of exact metric to measure by > > >>>>> if > > >>>>> we were to make an even more structured attempt at evaluating > > >>>>> compliance..? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Kristian > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 2014-09-03 21:50 GMT+02:00 Jason van Zyl <[email protected]>: > > >>>>>> For everything significant where significant is defined as more > > >>>>>> than > > >>>>>> 200 > > >>>>>> lines. I don't think we have any of those, and if we actually > > > > expunged > > > > >>>>>> from the source classes we don't actually use we're definitely > > > > safe.> > > > > >>>>>> On Sep 3, 2014, at 3:27 PM, Benson Margulies <[email protected] > > >>>> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>> If _everyone_ is present and accounted for, I agree. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> > > >> > > >> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> Yes, I think everyone is making this 10x more complicated than it > > >>>>>>>> is. > > >>>>>>>> Our existing CLAs apply. If you wrote the code, you can > > >>>>>>>> contribute > > >>>>>>>> it. > > >>>>>>>> For modello, plexus-utils, and plexus-classworlds we're covered > > >>>>>>>> as > > >>>>>>>> far > > >>>>>>>> as I can tell.>>> > > >>>>>>>> On Sep 3, 2014, at 2:44 PM, Kristian Rosenvold > > >>>> > > >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> To my best knowledge, *all* of the substantial contributors to > > > > all > > > > >>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>> plexus repositories I have seen are available to us, most of > > >>>>>>>>> them > > >>>>>>>>> are > > >>>>>>>>> PMC's or emeritus, and still "around" in some fashion or > > >>>>>>>>> another. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Could we make all of them submit some kind of written submission > > > > to > > > > >>>>>>>>> the ASF ? I would actually think that would cover a decent 95% > > >>>>>>>>> of > > >>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>> significant contributions, and in quite a few (maybe even > > >>>>>>>>> all...) > > >>>>>>>>> of > > >>>>>>>>> the repos it would cover 100% ? > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> (I am assuming they'll be willing to make such a submission...) > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Kristian > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> 2014-09-03 19:07 GMT+02:00 Benson Margulies > > >> > > >> <[email protected]>: > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 3:02 AM, Karl Heinz Marbaise > > >>>> > > >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/14 11:18 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Gang, doesn't the board of the ASF have very strong, > > >>>>>>>>>>>> negative, > > >>>>>>>>>>>> feelings about ASF PMC's controlling and maintaining code > > >>>>>>>>>>>> outside > > >>>>>>>>>>>> of > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ASF? > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Is there any evident about that ? any official statement about > > >>>>>>>>>>> that > > >>>>>>>>>>> from ASF Board ? > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> I'm working on getting a pointer to a written policy. > > >>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, > > > > http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/apache-software-foundation-> > > > > > > >>>>> la > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> un > > >>>>>>>>>> ches-apache-extras/#!bO9wnv describes a scheme to allow people > > > > who > > > > >>>>>>>>>> are > > >>>>>>>>>> _not_ an Apache PMC to > > >>>>>>>>>> manage Apache-related projects. There is, I predict, a fine > > >>>>>>>>>> line > > >>>>>>>>>> between 'some people who happen to be Maven PMC members' and > > > > 'the > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Maven PMC', and I'm trying to save us from getting swatted from > > >>>>>>>>>> crossing it. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I confess that I found this whole topic extremely confusing, > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> what with the googlecode 'Apache Extras' business. We might > > > > want > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>>>> ask for some clarification before we go here. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise > > >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/14 2:56 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked Github to give us github.com/maven for our 3rd > > > > party > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> code > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone is using it. Maybe Hervé can setup > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> github.com/apachemaven > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and we > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> move those Git repositories there. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately github.com/apachemaven is also occupied > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> already... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Karl-Heinz Marbaise > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 2, 2014, at 3:09 AM, Kristian Rosenvold > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have started talking about moving them somewhere, and > > > > the > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have come tom restart that discussion. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can either ask Brian for access or have one of the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committers apply your pull request. Just a regular pull > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> request > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> github should do. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kristian > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2014-09-01 22:37 GMT+02:00 Karl Heinz Marbaise > > >>>> > > >>>> <[email protected]>: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i just want to know how we handle things which are > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> located > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like plexus-archiver etc. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently i'm diving into some problems and want to > > > > checkin > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvments > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the plexus-archiver... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How can i gain commit access to those components ? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karl-Heinz Marbaise > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > >>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>> - > > >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > >>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Thanks, > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Jason > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl > > >>>>>>>> Founder, Apache Maven > > >>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > > >>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io > > >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> A man enjoys his work when he understands the whole and when he > > >>>>>>>> is responsible for the quality of the whole > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> -- Christopher Alexander, A Pattern Language > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Thanks, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Jason > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>> Jason van Zyl > > >>>>>> Founder, Apache Maven > > >>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > > >>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io > > >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it > > > > will > > > > >>>>>> elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will > > >>>>>> come > > >>>>>> and sit softly on your shoulder ... > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> -- Thoreau > > >>>>> > > >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>> - > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > >>>> > > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > >>> > > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Jason van Zyl > > > Founder, Apache Maven > > > http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > > > http://twitter.com/takari_io > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're > > > > talking about. > > > > > -- John von Neumann > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
