You current CLA is sufficient. You'll the author of the code, you can contribute it to Apache. We need to find the people on that list who do not have a CLA on file.
On Sep 8, 2014, at 7:32 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <[email protected]> wrote: > here is the new version with csv files and committers deduplicate > http://people.apache.org/~hboutemy/codehaus/summary.html > > now we need to ask for everybody's attribution of his contributions, and > we'll > see how much we cover from each component > > some components should be easy to cover fully, like plexus-cli > some will be harder... > > to start, I'm ready to give ASF all my contributions: how should I proceed? > some formal e-mail on this ML? > > Regards, > > Hervé > > Le dimanche 7 septembre 2014 23:22:39 Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit : >> improved the automatic summary >> http://people.apache.org/~hboutemy/codehaus/summary.html >> >> I suppose the next step will be to create a csv to be able to work on >> figures with a spreadsheet >> >> I have no time at the moment, will try tomorrow if nobody beats me >> >> Regards, >> >> Hervé >> >> Le dimanche 7 septembre 2014 15:01:58 Benson Margulies a écrit : >>> On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Kristian Rosenvold < >>> >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> But I still assume we need to get some kind of idea of how good is >>>> good enough. At some point there's going to be a significant >>>> contributor we won't be able to get hold of. We might be able to work >>>> around this by removing code or similar, but I don't think there is >>>> any point in starting a massive search for people if 100% is the only >>>> permitted result. >>>> >>>> Is there any way we could get some idea of what kind of requirement >>>> we'd be facing ? Can we acceptably simply delete contributions from >>>> people we can't get hold of (that may work in some cases) ? We >>>> usually operate on a "200 line" quota for requiring a CLA; can we >>>> disregard people with smaller contributions ? (And if so, would that >>>> be *total* 200 lines or "per submission" ...?) >>> >>> Yes, you can open a JIRA at LEGAL, and/or communicate with the board. I >>> recommend completing the survey first. No one there likes to answer >>> hypothetical questions; having an actual set of facts will grossly improve >>> the conversation. >>> >>>> Kristian >>>> >>>> 2014-09-07 1:01 GMT+02:00 Jason van Zyl <[email protected]>: >>>>> Cool, with your tool can you aggregate that into a single list of >>>> >>>> userIds/Names and then remove us. >>>> >>>>> I recognize most of the non-us and with that list we can contact them >>>> >>>> all at once if we want. >>>> >>>>> On Sep 6, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <[email protected]> > wrote: >>>>>> here are more accurate statistics: >>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~hboutemy/codehaus >>>>>> >>>>>> Le samedi 6 septembre 2014 09:39:20 Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit : >>>>>>> I satrted to write down the count of contributors done by github, >>>>>>> with >>>> >>>> link, >>>> >>>>>>> on >>>> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Plexus+dependencies >>>> >>>>>>> I'm not sure figures are relevant: >>>>>>> - missing contributions? it seems so, I looked at plexus-velocity >>>>>>> and >>>> >>>> older >>>> >>>>>>> commits are not counted... >>>>>>> - every contribution has to be taken into account? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> we'll probably need to do more manual work: will need to dispatch >>>> >>>> components >>>> >>>>>>> to avoid one to do the work for everything >>>>>>> >>>>>>> then we'll need to figure out the process details: I read >>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html, I suppose I'll >>>> >>>> have as >>>> >>>>>>> Maven Chair some work to do (any help from other members >>>>>>> appreciated), >>>> >>>> but I >>>> >>>>>>> still don't understand precisely >>>>>>> i will need some explanations from people with experience, probably >>>>>>> on >>>> >>>> IRC >>>> >>>>>>> wil be more efficient >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hervé >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le jeudi 4 septembre 2014 23:18:14 Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit : >>>>>>>> ok, so how do we do the next step? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hervé >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le jeudi 4 septembre 2014 06:49:02 Kristian Rosenvold a écrit : >>>>>>>>> I had a look through a few projects, and it would seem to me like >>>>>>>>> "know" 90% of the committers because they are all associated with >>>>>>>>> maven, most of them are also active. There's a further 5 or so >>>>>>>>> committers that are well known community folks that we could >>>>>>>>> probably >>>>>>>>> get hold of easily. It would appear to me this group is 95% or so >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> the commits. There's a handful of names I am unsure if we'll be >>>>>>>>> able >>>>>>>>> to locate, the contributions I've seen from these names are small. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think it all amounts to something like this: >>>>>>>>> For quite a few of the plexus repos we have close to 100% of the >>>>>>>>> committers as currently active maven community members. >>>>>>>>> For yet another bunch of projects we have one or two significant >>>>>>>>> non-maven contributors that we may be able to get hold of. >>>>>>>>> For plexus-utils the list is a bit longer, but there's a lot of >>>>>>>>> smaller contributions that'd normally go below the CLA radar. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I suppose we'd need to get some kind of exact metric to measure by >>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>> we were to make an even more structured attempt at evaluating >>>>>>>>> compliance..? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kristian >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2014-09-03 21:50 GMT+02:00 Jason van Zyl <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>> For everything significant where significant is defined as more >>>>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>>>> 200 >>>>>>>>>> lines. I don't think we have any of those, and if we actually >>>> >>>> expunged >>>> >>>>>>>>>> from the source classes we don't actually use we're definitely >>>> >>>> safe.> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 3, 2014, at 3:27 PM, Benson Margulies >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> If _everyone_ is present and accounted for, I agree. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I think everyone is making this 10x more complicated than >>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>> is. >>>>>>>>>>>> Our existing CLAs apply. If you wrote the code, you can >>>>>>>>>>>> contribute >>>>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>>>> For modello, plexus-utils, and plexus-classworlds we're covered >>>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>>> far >>>>>>>>>>>> as I can tell.>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 3, 2014, at 2:44 PM, Kristian Rosenvold >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> To my best knowledge, *all* of the substantial contributors to >>>> >>>> all >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> plexus repositories I have seen are available to us, most of >>>>>>>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>> PMC's or emeritus, and still "around" in some fashion or >>>>>>>>>>>>> another. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Could we make all of them submit some kind of written >>>>>>>>>>>>> submission >>>> >>>> to >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the ASF ? I would actually think that would cover a decent 95% >>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> significant contributions, and in quite a few (maybe even >>>>>>>>>>>>> all...) >>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> the repos it would cover 100% ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (I am assuming they'll be willing to make such a >>>>>>>>>>>>> submission...) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kristian >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2014-09-03 19:07 GMT+02:00 Benson Margulies >>>>>> >>>>>> <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 3:02 AM, Karl Heinz Marbaise >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/14 11:18 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gang, doesn't the board of the ASF have very strong, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> negative, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feelings about ASF PMC's controlling and maintaining code >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ASF? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any evident about that ? any official statement >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from ASF Board ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm working on getting a pointer to a written policy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, >>>> >>>> http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/apache-software-foundation-> > > >>>> >>>>>>>>> la >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> un >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ches-apache-extras/#!bO9wnv describes a scheme to allow >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people >>>> >>>> who >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _not_ an Apache PMC to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> manage Apache-related projects. There is, I predict, a fine >>>>>>>>>>>>>> line >>>>>>>>>>>>>> between 'some people who happen to be Maven PMC members' and >>>> >>>> 'the >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven PMC', and I'm trying to save us from getting swatted >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> crossing it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I confess that I found this whole topic extremely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confusing, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what with the googlecode 'Apache Extras' business. We might >>>> >>>> want >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask for some clarification before we go here. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/14 2:56 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked Github to give us github.com/maven for our 3rd >>>> >>>> party >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone is using it. Maybe Hervé can setup >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> github.com/apachemaven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move those Git repositories there. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately github.com/apachemaven is also occupied >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karl-Heinz Marbaise >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 2, 2014, at 3:09 AM, Kristian Rosenvold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have started talking about moving them somewhere, and >>>> >>>> the >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have come tom restart that discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can either ask Brian for access or have one of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committers apply your pull request. Just a regular pull >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> request >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> github should do. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kristian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2014-09-01 22:37 GMT+02:00 Karl Heinz Marbaise >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i just want to know how we handle things which are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> located >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like plexus-archiver etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently i'm diving into some problems and want to >>>> >>>> checkin >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvments >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the plexus-archiver... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How can i gain commit access to those components ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karl-Heinz Marbaise >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 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