I'll get Wayne Beaton to add yourself and Olivier to the proposal. On Aug 18, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Mark Struberg wrote:
> Me also, or should we ask on the eclipse aether list? (is there such a list > already?) > > LieGrue, > strub > > --- On Thu, 8/18/11, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote: > >> From: Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> >> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven core >> with EPL licenses - take 2 >> To: "Maven Developers List" <dev@maven.apache.org> >> Date: Thursday, August 18, 2011, 2:34 PM >> 2011/8/18 Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>: >>> >>> On Aug 18, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: >>> >>>> So I reformulate my question : 'how to be in the >> initial set of >>>> committers ?" too late ? >>>> >>> >>> Just ask. As I posted previously, anyone who wants to >> be listed as a committer I will add. >> Oups I missed. >> >> So I ask. >> >>> >>>> 2011/8/18 Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>: >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 18, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Olivier Lamy >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> Perso the license question doesn't matter >> a lot as long we have a >>>>>> compatible one with ASF. >>>>>> Have a look at tomcat 7 or the cxf >> distribs which contains ecj and/or >>>>>> jetty so the Eclipse license is not a >> trouble for ASF products (sure >>>>>> at least for me). >>>>>> My main point is more regarding the >> governance model and the devs/pmcs >>>>>> involved for those projects @eclipse. >>>>>> If I look at the various proposals for >> aether [1] and sisu [2], the >>>>>> initial set of committers doesn't show a >> diversity or a huge >>>>>> community. >>>>>> >>>>>> So even if probably I won't be a huge >> committer, how will it be >>>>>> possible to participate in the projects ? >>>>> >>>>> The process is more or less identical to >> Apache. The voting starts by a committer nominating someone >> and the process is tracked in the portal where votes are >> registered and tracked. Election of committers is the domain >> of committers and the PMC has to approve the final vote. PMC >> members are usually committers. As committers vote, they are >> posted to the mailing list in question so people can see the >> progress. >>>>> >>>>>> And probably some others Maven folks have >> the same question. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Olivier Lamy >>>>>> Talend : http://talend.com >>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/technology.aether/ >>>>>> [2] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/technology.sisu/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2011/8/18 Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>: >>>>>>> Jason, Brian, Benjamin or any other >> person involved, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Before voting on this issue, I'd like >> to get an idea what it means for us. So please allow me a >> few questions: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> a.) how can appache maven committers >> anticipate on aether over at Eclipse? What if someone (like >> me) likes to contribute, but wants to make sure that his >> contributions are also possible to release separately under >> ALv2? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> b.) is it possible to operate aether >> without sisu? Pure JSR-330 and/or plexus DI stuff is fine. >> Is there any direct guice depending code in aether? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> c.) will the package names remain >> com.sonatype or will they get changed to org.eclipse.*? This >> is important for us to know. If so, we can just cancel the >> vote and wait for this stuff to be released at Eclipse. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> d.) How long will it take to get the >> first aether release done at Eclipse? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If there is a chilly way for maven >> committers to get involved with that stuff over at Eclipse, >> then this would be a big pro. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> txs and LieGrue, >>>>>>> strub >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- On Thu, 8/18/11, Anders Hammar >> <and...@hammar.net> >> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Anders Hammar <and...@hammar.net> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of >> Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven core with EPL >> licenses - take 2 >>>>>>>> To: "Maven Developers List" <dev@maven.apache.org> >>>>>>>> Date: Thursday, August 18, 2011, >> 10:56 AM >>>>>>>> +1 (non-binding) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> /Anders >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2011/8/18 Arnaud Héritier <aherit...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thus as decided with Mark >> and Kristian I relaunch a >>>>>>>> new vote with a better >>>>>>>>> scope about what we are voting >> for. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Next releases of SISU and >> Aether will be released at >>>>>>>> Eclipse.org under EPL >>>>>>>>> 1.0 license. >>>>>>>>> Before they were published >> under ASL or dual ASL/EPL >>>>>>>> licenses thus as >>>>>>>>> defined in our policy [1] this >> change put them in >>>>>>>> Category B [2] and we need >>>>>>>>> to validate this change by a >> vote with a majority of >>>>>>>> the PMC in favor (but >>>>>>>>> the vote is open to >> everybody). >>>>>>>>> I push only one vote for >> both dependencies as for >>>>>>>> now I see no reason to >>>>>>>>> accept one and not the other. >>>>>>>>> This vote will be open for 6 >> days as we are in >>>>>>>> august (If we have not >>>>>>>>> enough votes at the end of >> next wednesday will see if >>>>>>>> we really need to >>>>>>>>> extend it). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The vote : >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [+1] I'm in favor to use as >> Maven core dependencies >>>>>>>> SISU and AETHER libraries >>>>>>>>> published under EPL 1.0 >> License and released under >>>>>>>> eclipse.org governance >>>>>>>>> [+0] No opinion, do what you >> want. >>>>>>>>> [-1] I'm against because >> .... (please elaborate) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Arnaud >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [1] http://maven.apache.org/developers/dependency-policies.html >>>>>>>>> [2] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Jason >>>>> >>>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Jason van Zyl >>>>> Founder, Apache Maven >>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> A party which is not afraid of letting >> culture, >>>>> business, and welfare go to ruin completely >> can >>>>> be omnipotent for a while. >>>>> >>>>> -- Jakob Burckhardt >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Olivier Lamy >>>> Talend : http://talend.com >>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy >>>> >>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Jason >>> >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> Jason van Zyl >>> Founder, Apache Maven >>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> A party which is not afraid of letting culture, >>> business, and welfare go to ruin completely can >>> be omnipotent for a while. >>> >>> -- Jakob Burckhardt >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Olivier Lamy >> Talend : http://talend.com >> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > Thanks, Jason ---------------------------------------------------------- Jason van Zyl Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl --------------------------------------------------------- To do two things at once is to do neither. -—Publilius Syrus, Roman slave, first century B.C.
