You've all be added to the proposal:

http://eclipse.org/proposals/technology.aether/

On Aug 18, 2011, at 2:50 PM, John Casey wrote:

> And me, please.
> 
> On 8/18/11 1:01 PM, Brian Fox wrote:
>> I'd like to be added as well please.
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Jason van Zyl<ja...@maven.org>  wrote:
>>> I'll get Wayne Beaton to add yourself and Olivier to the proposal.
>>> 
>>> On Aug 18, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Mark Struberg wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Me also, or should we ask on the eclipse aether list? (is there such a 
>>>> list already?)
>>>> 
>>>> LieGrue,
>>>> strub
>>>> 
>>>> --- On Thu, 8/18/11, Olivier Lamy<ol...@apache.org>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Olivier Lamy<ol...@apache.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven 
>>>>> core with EPL licenses - take 2
>>>>> To: "Maven Developers List"<dev@maven.apache.org>
>>>>> Date: Thursday, August 18, 2011, 2:34 PM
>>>>> 2011/8/18 Jason van Zyl<ja...@maven.org>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So I reformulate my question : 'how to be in the
>>>>> initial set of
>>>>>>> committers ?" too late ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just ask. As I posted previously, anyone who wants to
>>>>> be listed as a committer I will add.
>>>>> Oups I missed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So I ask.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2011/8/18 Jason van Zyl<ja...@maven.org>:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Olivier Lamy
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>> Perso the license question doesn't matter
>>>>> a lot as long we have a
>>>>>>>>> compatible one with ASF.
>>>>>>>>> Have a look at tomcat 7 or the cxf
>>>>> distribs which contains ecj and/or
>>>>>>>>> jetty so the Eclipse license is not a
>>>>> trouble for ASF products (sure
>>>>>>>>> at least for me).
>>>>>>>>> My main point is more regarding the
>>>>> governance model and the devs/pmcs
>>>>>>>>> involved for those projects @eclipse.
>>>>>>>>> If I look at the various proposals for
>>>>> aether [1] and sisu [2], the
>>>>>>>>> initial set of committers doesn't show a
>>>>> diversity or a huge
>>>>>>>>> community.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So even if probably I won't be a huge
>>>>> committer, how will it be
>>>>>>>>> possible to participate in the projects ?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The process is more or less identical to
>>>>> Apache. The voting starts by a committer nominating someone
>>>>> and the process is tracked in the portal where votes are
>>>>> registered and tracked. Election of committers is the domain
>>>>> of committers and the PMC has to approve the final vote. PMC
>>>>> members are usually committers. As committers vote, they are
>>>>> posted to the mailing list in question so people can see the
>>>>> progress.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> And probably some others Maven folks have
>>>>> the same question.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy
>>>>>>>>> Talend : http://talend.com
>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> [1] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/technology.aether/
>>>>>>>>> [2] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/technology.sisu/
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 2011/8/18 Mark Struberg<strub...@yahoo.de>:
>>>>>>>>>> Jason, Brian, Benjamin or any other
>>>>> person involved,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Before voting on this issue, I'd like
>>>>> to get an idea what it means for us. So please allow me a
>>>>> few questions:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> a.) how can appache maven committers
>>>>> anticipate on aether over at Eclipse? What if someone (like
>>>>> me) likes to contribute, but wants to make sure that his
>>>>> contributions are also possible to release separately under
>>>>> ALv2?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> b.) is it possible to operate aether
>>>>> without sisu? Pure JSR-330 and/or plexus DI stuff is fine.
>>>>> Is there any direct guice depending code in aether?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> c.) will the package names remain
>>>>> com.sonatype or will they get changed to org.eclipse.*? This
>>>>> is important for us to know. If so, we can just cancel the
>>>>> vote and wait for this stuff to be released at Eclipse.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> d.) How long will it take to get the
>>>>> first aether release done at Eclipse?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> If there is a chilly way for maven
>>>>> committers to get involved with that stuff over at Eclipse,
>>>>> then this would be a big pro.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> txs and LieGrue,
>>>>>>>>>> strub
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --- On Thu, 8/18/11, Anders Hammar
>>>>> <and...@hammar.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Anders Hammar<and...@hammar.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of
>>>>> Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven core with EPL
>>>>> licenses - take 2
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Maven Developers List"<dev@maven.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thursday, August 18, 2011,
>>>>> 10:56 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> +1 (non-binding)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/8/18 Arnaud Héritier<aherit...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Thus as decided with Mark
>>>>> and Kristian I relaunch a
>>>>>>>>>>> new vote with a better
>>>>>>>>>>>> scope about what we are voting
>>>>> for.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Next releases of SISU and
>>>>> Aether will be released at
>>>>>>>>>>> Eclipse.org under EPL
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.0 license.
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Before they were published
>>>>> under ASL or dual ASL/EPL
>>>>>>>>>>> licenses thus as
>>>>>>>>>>>> defined in our policy [1] this
>>>>> change put them in
>>>>>>>>>>> Category B [2] and we need
>>>>>>>>>>>> to validate this change by a
>>>>> vote with a majority of
>>>>>>>>>>> the PMC in favor (but
>>>>>>>>>>>> the vote is open to
>>>>> everybody).
>>>>>>>>>>>>  I push only one vote for
>>>>> both dependencies as for
>>>>>>>>>>> now I see no reason to
>>>>>>>>>>>> accept one and not the other.
>>>>>>>>>>>>  This vote will be open for 6
>>>>> days as we are in
>>>>>>>>>>> august (If we have not
>>>>>>>>>>>> enough votes at the end of
>>>>> next wednesday will see if
>>>>>>>>>>> we really need to
>>>>>>>>>>>> extend it).
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>  The vote :
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>  [+1] I'm in favor to use as
>>>>> Maven core dependencies
>>>>>>>>>>> SISU and AETHER libraries
>>>>>>>>>>>> published under EPL 1.0
>>>>> License and released under
>>>>>>>>>>> eclipse.org governance
>>>>>>>>>>>>  [+0] No opinion, do what you
>>>>> want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>  [-1] I'm against because
>>>>> .... (please elaborate)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://maven.apache.org/developers/dependency-policies.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> A party which is not afraid of letting
>>>>> culture,
>>>>>>>> business, and welfare go to ruin completely
>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> be omnipotent for a while.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  -- Jakob Burckhardt
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy
>>>>>>> Talend : http://talend.com
>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>> 
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A party which is not afraid of letting culture,
>>>>>> business, and welfare go to ruin completely can
>>>>>> be omnipotent for a while.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  -- Jakob Burckhardt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Olivier Lamy
>>>>> Talend : http://talend.com
>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
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>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Jason
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Thanks,

Jason

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