On Aug 18, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote:

> Hello,
> Perso the license question doesn't matter a lot as long we have a
> compatible one with ASF.
> Have a look at tomcat 7 or the cxf distribs which contains ecj and/or
> jetty so the Eclipse license is not a trouble for ASF products (sure
> at least for me).
> My main point is more regarding the governance model and the devs/pmcs
> involved for those projects @eclipse.
> If I look at the various proposals for aether [1] and sisu [2], the
> initial set of committers doesn't show a diversity or a huge
> community.
> 
> So even if probably I won't be a huge committer, how will it be
> possible to participate in the projects ?

The process is more or less identical to Apache. The voting starts by a 
committer nominating someone and the process is tracked in the portal where 
votes are registered and tracked. Election of committers is the domain of 
committers and the PMC has to approve the final vote. PMC members are usually 
committers. As committers vote, they are posted to the mailing list in question 
so people can see the progress.

> And probably some others Maven folks have the same question.
> 
> Thanks,
> -- 
> Olivier Lamy
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> 
> [1] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/technology.aether/
> [2] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/technology.sisu/
> 
> 
> 2011/8/18 Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>:
>> Jason, Brian, Benjamin or any other person involved,
>> 
>> Before voting on this issue, I'd like to get an idea what it means for us. 
>> So please allow me a few questions:
>> 
>> a.) how can appache maven committers anticipate on aether over at Eclipse? 
>> What if someone (like me) likes to contribute, but wants to make sure that 
>> his contributions are also possible to release separately under ALv2?
>> 
>> b.) is it possible to operate aether without sisu? Pure JSR-330 and/or 
>> plexus DI stuff is fine. Is there any direct guice depending code in aether?
>> 
>> c.) will the package names remain com.sonatype or will they get changed to 
>> org.eclipse.*? This is important for us to know. If so, we can just cancel 
>> the vote and wait for this stuff to be released at Eclipse.
>> 
>> d.) How long will it take to get the first aether release done at Eclipse?
>> 
>> If there is a chilly way for maven committers to get involved with that 
>> stuff over at Eclipse, then this would be a big pro.
>> 
>> txs and LieGrue,
>> strub
>> 
>> 
>> --- On Thu, 8/18/11, Anders Hammar <and...@hammar.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> From: Anders Hammar <and...@hammar.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven core 
>>> with EPL licenses - take 2
>>> To: "Maven Developers List" <dev@maven.apache.org>
>>> Date: Thursday, August 18, 2011, 10:56 AM
>>> +1 (non-binding)
>>> 
>>> /Anders
>>> 
>>> 2011/8/18 Arnaud Héritier <aherit...@gmail.com>:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>>  Thus as decided with Mark and Kristian I relaunch a
>>> new vote with a better
>>>> scope about what we are voting for.
>>>> 
>>>>  Next releases of SISU and Aether will be released at
>>> Eclipse.org under EPL
>>>> 1.0 license.
>>>>  Before they were published under ASL or dual ASL/EPL
>>> licenses thus as
>>>> defined in our policy [1] this change put them in
>>> Category B [2] and we need
>>>> to validate this change by a vote with a majority of
>>> the PMC in favor (but
>>>> the vote is open to everybody).
>>>>  I push only one vote for both dependencies as for
>>> now I see no reason to
>>>> accept one and not the other.
>>>>  This vote will be open for 6 days as we are in
>>> august (If we have not
>>>> enough votes at the end of next wednesday will see if
>>> we really need to
>>>> extend it).
>>>> 
>>>>  The vote :
>>>> 
>>>>  [+1] I'm in favor to use as Maven core dependencies
>>> SISU and AETHER libraries
>>>> published under EPL 1.0 License and released under
>>> eclipse.org governance
>>>>  [+0] No opinion, do what you want.
>>>>  [-1] I'm against because .... (please elaborate)
>>>> 
>>>> Arnaud
>>>> 
>>>> [1] http://maven.apache.org/developers/dependency-policies.html
>>>> [2] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b
>>>> 
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Thanks,

Jason

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