On Aug 18, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote:

> So I reformulate my question : 'how to be in the initial set of
> committers ?" too late ?
> 

Just ask. As I posted previously, anyone who wants to be listed as a committer 
I will add. 

> 2011/8/18 Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>:
>> 
>> On Aug 18, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> Perso the license question doesn't matter a lot as long we have a
>>> compatible one with ASF.
>>> Have a look at tomcat 7 or the cxf distribs which contains ecj and/or
>>> jetty so the Eclipse license is not a trouble for ASF products (sure
>>> at least for me).
>>> My main point is more regarding the governance model and the devs/pmcs
>>> involved for those projects @eclipse.
>>> If I look at the various proposals for aether [1] and sisu [2], the
>>> initial set of committers doesn't show a diversity or a huge
>>> community.
>>> 
>>> So even if probably I won't be a huge committer, how will it be
>>> possible to participate in the projects ?
>> 
>> The process is more or less identical to Apache. The voting starts by a 
>> committer nominating someone and the process is tracked in the portal where 
>> votes are registered and tracked. Election of committers is the domain of 
>> committers and the PMC has to approve the final vote. PMC members are 
>> usually committers. As committers vote, they are posted to the mailing list 
>> in question so people can see the progress.
>> 
>>> And probably some others Maven folks have the same question.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> --
>>> Olivier Lamy
>>> Talend : http://talend.com
>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
>>> 
>>> [1] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/technology.aether/
>>> [2] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/technology.sisu/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2011/8/18 Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>:
>>>> Jason, Brian, Benjamin or any other person involved,
>>>> 
>>>> Before voting on this issue, I'd like to get an idea what it means for us. 
>>>> So please allow me a few questions:
>>>> 
>>>> a.) how can appache maven committers anticipate on aether over at Eclipse? 
>>>> What if someone (like me) likes to contribute, but wants to make sure that 
>>>> his contributions are also possible to release separately under ALv2?
>>>> 
>>>> b.) is it possible to operate aether without sisu? Pure JSR-330 and/or 
>>>> plexus DI stuff is fine. Is there any direct guice depending code in 
>>>> aether?
>>>> 
>>>> c.) will the package names remain com.sonatype or will they get changed to 
>>>> org.eclipse.*? This is important for us to know. If so, we can just cancel 
>>>> the vote and wait for this stuff to be released at Eclipse.
>>>> 
>>>> d.) How long will it take to get the first aether release done at Eclipse?
>>>> 
>>>> If there is a chilly way for maven committers to get involved with that 
>>>> stuff over at Eclipse, then this would be a big pro.
>>>> 
>>>> txs and LieGrue,
>>>> strub
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --- On Thu, 8/18/11, Anders Hammar <and...@hammar.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Anders Hammar <and...@hammar.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven 
>>>>> core with EPL licenses - take 2
>>>>> To: "Maven Developers List" <dev@maven.apache.org>
>>>>> Date: Thursday, August 18, 2011, 10:56 AM
>>>>> +1 (non-binding)
>>>>> 
>>>>> /Anders
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2011/8/18 Arnaud Héritier <aherit...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Thus as decided with Mark and Kristian I relaunch a
>>>>> new vote with a better
>>>>>> scope about what we are voting for.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Next releases of SISU and Aether will be released at
>>>>> Eclipse.org under EPL
>>>>>> 1.0 license.
>>>>>>  Before they were published under ASL or dual ASL/EPL
>>>>> licenses thus as
>>>>>> defined in our policy [1] this change put them in
>>>>> Category B [2] and we need
>>>>>> to validate this change by a vote with a majority of
>>>>> the PMC in favor (but
>>>>>> the vote is open to everybody).
>>>>>>  I push only one vote for both dependencies as for
>>>>> now I see no reason to
>>>>>> accept one and not the other.
>>>>>>  This vote will be open for 6 days as we are in
>>>>> august (If we have not
>>>>>> enough votes at the end of next wednesday will see if
>>>>> we really need to
>>>>>> extend it).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  The vote :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  [+1] I'm in favor to use as Maven core dependencies
>>>>> SISU and AETHER libraries
>>>>>> published under EPL 1.0 License and released under
>>>>> eclipse.org governance
>>>>>>  [+0] No opinion, do what you want.
>>>>>>  [-1] I'm against because .... (please elaborate)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Arnaud
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1] http://maven.apache.org/developers/dependency-policies.html
>>>>>> [2] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b
>>>>>> 
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>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jason
>> 
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> Olivier Lamy
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Thanks,

Jason

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