On Aug 18, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > So I reformulate my question : 'how to be in the initial set of > committers ?" too late ? >
Just ask. As I posted previously, anyone who wants to be listed as a committer I will add. > 2011/8/18 Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>: >> >> On Aug 18, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> Perso the license question doesn't matter a lot as long we have a >>> compatible one with ASF. >>> Have a look at tomcat 7 or the cxf distribs which contains ecj and/or >>> jetty so the Eclipse license is not a trouble for ASF products (sure >>> at least for me). >>> My main point is more regarding the governance model and the devs/pmcs >>> involved for those projects @eclipse. >>> If I look at the various proposals for aether [1] and sisu [2], the >>> initial set of committers doesn't show a diversity or a huge >>> community. >>> >>> So even if probably I won't be a huge committer, how will it be >>> possible to participate in the projects ? >> >> The process is more or less identical to Apache. The voting starts by a >> committer nominating someone and the process is tracked in the portal where >> votes are registered and tracked. Election of committers is the domain of >> committers and the PMC has to approve the final vote. PMC members are >> usually committers. As committers vote, they are posted to the mailing list >> in question so people can see the progress. >> >>> And probably some others Maven folks have the same question. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -- >>> Olivier Lamy >>> Talend : http://talend.com >>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy >>> >>> [1] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/technology.aether/ >>> [2] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/technology.sisu/ >>> >>> >>> 2011/8/18 Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>: >>>> Jason, Brian, Benjamin or any other person involved, >>>> >>>> Before voting on this issue, I'd like to get an idea what it means for us. >>>> So please allow me a few questions: >>>> >>>> a.) how can appache maven committers anticipate on aether over at Eclipse? >>>> What if someone (like me) likes to contribute, but wants to make sure that >>>> his contributions are also possible to release separately under ALv2? >>>> >>>> b.) is it possible to operate aether without sisu? Pure JSR-330 and/or >>>> plexus DI stuff is fine. Is there any direct guice depending code in >>>> aether? >>>> >>>> c.) will the package names remain com.sonatype or will they get changed to >>>> org.eclipse.*? This is important for us to know. If so, we can just cancel >>>> the vote and wait for this stuff to be released at Eclipse. >>>> >>>> d.) How long will it take to get the first aether release done at Eclipse? >>>> >>>> If there is a chilly way for maven committers to get involved with that >>>> stuff over at Eclipse, then this would be a big pro. >>>> >>>> txs and LieGrue, >>>> strub >>>> >>>> >>>> --- On Thu, 8/18/11, Anders Hammar <and...@hammar.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> From: Anders Hammar <and...@hammar.net> >>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven >>>>> core with EPL licenses - take 2 >>>>> To: "Maven Developers List" <dev@maven.apache.org> >>>>> Date: Thursday, August 18, 2011, 10:56 AM >>>>> +1 (non-binding) >>>>> >>>>> /Anders >>>>> >>>>> 2011/8/18 Arnaud Héritier <aherit...@gmail.com>: >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thus as decided with Mark and Kristian I relaunch a >>>>> new vote with a better >>>>>> scope about what we are voting for. >>>>>> >>>>>> Next releases of SISU and Aether will be released at >>>>> Eclipse.org under EPL >>>>>> 1.0 license. >>>>>> Before they were published under ASL or dual ASL/EPL >>>>> licenses thus as >>>>>> defined in our policy [1] this change put them in >>>>> Category B [2] and we need >>>>>> to validate this change by a vote with a majority of >>>>> the PMC in favor (but >>>>>> the vote is open to everybody). >>>>>> I push only one vote for both dependencies as for >>>>> now I see no reason to >>>>>> accept one and not the other. >>>>>> This vote will be open for 6 days as we are in >>>>> august (If we have not >>>>>> enough votes at the end of next wednesday will see if >>>>> we really need to >>>>>> extend it). >>>>>> >>>>>> The vote : >>>>>> >>>>>> [+1] I'm in favor to use as Maven core dependencies >>>>> SISU and AETHER libraries >>>>>> published under EPL 1.0 License and released under >>>>> eclipse.org governance >>>>>> [+0] No opinion, do what you want. >>>>>> [-1] I'm against because .... (please elaborate) >>>>>> >>>>>> Arnaud >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] http://maven.apache.org/developers/dependency-policies.html >>>>>> [2] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jason >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Jason van Zyl >> Founder, Apache Maven >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> >> A party which is not afraid of letting culture, >> business, and welfare go to ruin completely can >> be omnipotent for a while. >> >> -- Jakob Burckhardt >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Olivier Lamy > Talend : http://talend.com > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > Thanks, Jason ---------------------------------------------------------- Jason van Zyl Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl --------------------------------------------------------- A party which is not afraid of letting culture, business, and welfare go to ruin completely can be omnipotent for a while. -- Jakob Burckhardt